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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5?
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:59:46
Message-Id: 50508700.1030605@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5? by "Gregory M. Turner"
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4 On 12/09/12 05:55 AM, Gregory M. Turner wrote:
5 >
6 > Note that, effectively, we have this already, and it's called
7 > "portage". But one could certainly make a case for modularizing it
8 > better, since, in truth, we are talking about a very common, very
9 > abstract problem here which portage shares with any number of
10 > batch-build systems.
11 >
12 > Such an engine could very well do exactly the right thing if it
13 > were faced with a constraint that a certain part of a certain build
14 > needed to proceed without parallelism due to limitations coming
15 > from the build.
16 >
17 > Also, there are very large parts of most builds -- configure comes
18 > to mind -- that don't parallelize even if, perhaps, they should.
19 > In such cases, a really smart global parallelism arbiter could
20 > easily respond by spawning more jobs from other builds.
21 >
22
23 So essentially what you're saying here is that it might be worthwhile
24 to look into parallelism as a whole and possibly come up with a
25 solution that combines 'emerge --jobs' and build-system parallelism
26 together to maximum benefit?
27
28 Advanced HPC systems (sys-cluster/torque along with an appropriate
29 scheduler, for instance) can do such things with their jobs when the
30 jobs are properly built; I could see portage being able to handle this
31 as well given most of what is necessary is already known (ebuild
32 phases, build system type (via eclass), etc). However, given the
33 limitations already put on parallelism in terms of emerge order, etc,
34 I could see this solution needing to be -very- complex and integration
35 needing to occur on multiple levels. We'd also need to consider
36 distcc (and other cluster-shared compilation methods if there are
37 any??).. It would be an interesting project, though.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5? Hans de Graaff <graaff@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5? "Gregory M. Turner" <gmt@×××××.us>