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Hi, |
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Disclaimer**: |
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this mail is not meant to point the finger at someone, as I (thankfully) |
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don't know enough about who did what first to whom to do that; in fact, |
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I think no one does at this point. |
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Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: |
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> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 23:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Hubert Mercier |
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> <anigel@g.o> wrote: |
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>> In the last months, a some talented devs gone, and a few others were |
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>> thinking to do so. How much more before deciding to simplify our |
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>> organisation ? |
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>> |
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> Simplifying it won't help. If Gentoo wants more developers, it has to |
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> do three things: |
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> * Start delivering again. Not just shiny things, although some new shiny |
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> things would help, but also things that users and developers really |
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> need. |
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> * Substantially reduce user-visible breakages and breakages caused by |
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> carelessness or deliberate negligence that take huge amounts of time to |
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> fix. |
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> * Reduce the amount of arcane undocumented voodoo. |
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And, above all, |
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* stop to treat -dev (and the projects) as the ideal battleground for |
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personalities, the home of flames, the temple of mailwar. |
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You know what people state* as the major benefit from using Gentoo? It's |
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not portage, not the tree, certainly not stability or ease of use, it's |
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two things, the community and flexibility. In this order. |
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You all are a very visible part of that community. |
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> The only relevance of organisational issues is whether they help or |
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> hinder in achieving those objectives. |
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I'll use those words for my point, instead. The above list could be the |
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agenda of Microsoft, too (or Sun, IBM, ...); I don't want to say they're |
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unimportant, that would of course be wrong, but is *this* the core of |
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Gentoo? If you deliver, how you behave doesn't count? Scream all you |
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like, if you attach a patch? Hey, let's make each others life hell, as |
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long as we get releases out the door. |
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Will that work? I doubt it. |
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> PMS, in a round-about way, helps with all three. |
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Regards, |
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Thomas (who is just a user, until last week was pondering to help |
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out, until today advocated Gentoo, and who cares too much for it to stay |
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quiet, even if he doubts anyone will read this mail the way it was meant |
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to be) |
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* Yes, people I ask and people i know. No, I don't have a statistic at |
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hand. I can make one up if you want :-). |
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** Gentoo-Dev, where mails need a disclaimer, or someone *will* take it |
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personal. |
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