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From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: dev-ada/cbind, net-dialup/dtrace, net-nds/lat, app-pda/jpilot-mail, net-dialup/drdsl, dev-util/insight, app-laptop/configure-trackpoint, x11-misc/lxmed, dev-util/ketchup, media-gfx/skencil... and others
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 22:44:50
Message-Id: 58152657.2040700@iee.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: dev-ada/cbind, net-dialup/dtrace, net-nds/lat, app-pda/jpilot-mail, net-dialup/drdsl, dev-util/insight, app-laptop/configure-trackpoint, x11-misc/lxmed, dev-util/ketchup, media-gfx/skencil... and others by NP-Hardass
1 On 29/10/16 21:25, NP-Hardass wrote:
2 > On 10/29/2016 02:30 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
3 >>
4 >> Someone needs to take over responsibility for the packages
5 >> (maintainership) and fixing the issues then. If not, they should be removed.
6 >>
7 > I'm only talking about the packages that have no other issues and are
8 > only being treecleaned because of this dependency. Honestly, I don't
9 > care about any of those packages. I only brought this up because
10 > sometimes it is better to only treeclean when appropriate, and if
11 > switching from one dep to another (which should have been virtual'd)
12 > resolves it, it might not still meet the conditions for tree cleaning.
13 > We don't normally tree clean packages simply because they are old or
14 > don't have a maintainer.
15 >
16 > So, I will reiterate my one and only point, for those that are only
17 > being removed due to the removal of capi4kutils, how many are still
18 > worthy of being treecleaned after swapping out that dep?
19 >
20 > If you feel that is too high a maintenance burden, fine, remove them
21 > all. I'm merely proposing it be looked at since otherwise we are
22 > potentially removing packages that don't have to or shouldn't be removed.
23 >
24 Whilst this may potentially be a contentious topic (and one that g-p-m
25 has partially attempted to address) there has been a mildly aggressive
26 policy applied to treecleaning, whereby if something is old and missing
27 a maintainer and/or has even minor issues it is likely be nuked without
28 so much as anyone attempting to solve the issues. Granted, all too often
29 there IS nobody to address any issues, or outstanding bugs, but I too am
30 somewhat of the opinion that if a package builds, has some form of
31 upstream source, does NOT have any security vulnerabilities, it should
32 live in the main Gentoo tree. This doesn't seem to be a view shared by
33 all, but there appears to be a bias to remove and potentially re-add
34 later, than maintain what we have properly.

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