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On 13/05/07, Jakub Moc <jakub@g.o> wrote: |
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> Ulrich Mueller napsal(a): |
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> > Maybe the following are also interesting in this context: |
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> > Debian: |
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> > <http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/renaming-of-ion3> |
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> > <http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=69522> |
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> > Archlinux: |
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> > <http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004634.html> |
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> > I wonder if a package should be kept whose author is threatening with |
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> > "legal repercurssions" [sic]. |
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> > Ulrich |
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> Please, drop this thing from the tree. It has clearly no future in |
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> Gentoo anyway: |
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> http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004644.html |
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> <snip> |
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> > The only way to keep absolute control over the product as delivered to |
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> > the user is to change the license and distribute Ion3 as binary-only. |
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> I am going to do that. And, in fact, after final Ion3 is released, I'm |
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> not going to write a line of so-called "free software"; so poor has |
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> been the treatment of the FOSS herd (both of my code, and of the good |
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> old *nix), that I'm not going to do them any services any more. |
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> </snip> |
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> This post provides a very good reasoning so I'll just link it: |
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> http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004653.html |
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> P.S. And, please forget the 'but we only distribute ebuild, not the |
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> package' line. The guy is seriously paranoid, annoying and crazy. Next |
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> time he's apparently gonna claim that portage is a derivative work of |
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> Ion3. |
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> http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004663.html |
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> http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004659.html |
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> I'm not interested in his personal crusade against font handling on |
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> Linux, nor are most of users. No place for such frenzy in Gentoo - not |
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> worth the trouble, and noone should encourage such attitude, more |
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> importantly. |
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> <snip> |
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> FOSS shit has been on a constant downward slide ever since I started |
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> using it back in '95-'96, especially after all sorts of world domination |
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> plans, like Gnome, were announced. Windows, OTOH, has improved, although |
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> Vista has a small degradation again: you also can't easily disable the |
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> blurry fonts completely, just like Linux that requires writing loads |
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> of XML shit to do so. Maybe they've employed a few representative |
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> specimens of the FOSS herd -- a bunch of teenagers wanking to buzzwords, |
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> instead of pr0n. No wonder they can't tell a blurry font from a crisp |
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> one. |
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> </snip> |
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> Once again, I don't want to use any software produced by such abusive |
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> moron, and other people should do the same - or they should help them |
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> themselves and compile the only original, trademarked Ion3 (C)(TM) |
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> manually. |
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> *annoyed* |
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> -- |
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> Best regards, |
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> Jakub Moc |
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> mailto:jakub@g.o |
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> GPG signature: |
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> http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E |
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> Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA |
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> 3D9E |
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> ... still no signature ;) |
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As others have said, drop ion3 and related packages. |
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This sort of abuse from up stream should not be tolerated. We are at the |
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service of our users _not_ upstream. |
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Bending over backwards to meet the demands of an upstream author can almost |
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never be in the interest of the users. It takes up far too much time and in |
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the end if we were to comply with the demands of Tumo I have no doubt that |
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we would be supplying the users with a product which is inferior to the |
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"gentooified" version. |
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Meeting Tumo's demands isn't in the interest of our users. Where a conflict |
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like this exists the path of least confusion and disruption should be taken. |
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Drop the package and suggest to users missing it that they either go to it |
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direct, email Tumo or find an alternative WM, of the hundreds out there and |
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the scores within Gentoo, I'm sure the discerning user could find something |
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to suit there needs. |
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At the end of the day, this isn't "Gnome", "XFCE" or any other package we |
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serve out with a huge user base where adjusting to suit upstream may be the |
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better option. Its ion3. Tumo has gotten too big for his boots and its high |
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time Gentoo put its foot down. |
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Just my 0.02 chf |
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-Rob |