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M. Zuelsdorff wrote: |
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>What about swapping this discussion to gentoo-user or gentoo-newbie? I would |
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>expect a developer to track down the bug(s) and post the appropriate patches |
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>here. Instead of (not) recommending this and that without any details like |
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>kernel configs, environment, etc. which (maybe) would at least lead to some |
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>ideas what these trouble makers had in common and the like. |
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>michael |
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Has far has I can say, every FS that's out there HAS stability issues.. |
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in my old 486 laptop even ext2 ISN'T capable of NOT failing |
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I know that reiserfs did caused problems, specially with some kernel |
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versions, am I correct? |
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I also know that ext3 is far from rock...same with jfs and xfs... and |
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even the linux kernel didn't helped, with versions that messed up the |
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filesystem... |
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I also believe that everyone could try to defend their favorite... and |
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even be relatively sucesseful. |
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But since this might start to seem like a religous discution with no |
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conclusion.. |
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I believe that Gentoo should supply a broad range of filesystem |
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supports, and let the user decide what to use. |
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However, since it's the developers who have to answer to users with fs |
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failures, and they are the one's that have all the trouble supporting |
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all those fs's, gentoo could have a "favorite" fs, so that would be the |
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advisable, and most supported under gentoo. |
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After all gentoo is guided for the poweruser, and the poweruser isn't |
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supposed to be ignorant when it comes to linux and his core components, |
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and in fact the poweruser whant's to use his favorite's core components. |
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Mainly because of that, I believe gentoo should NOT disadvise anyone |
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from using whatever component they want. |
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I myself, am one of the many reiserfs users, in 3 computers at home, one |
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at the office, and know that my university department has several dozens |
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of PC's with reiserfs, working 24/7 with every kind of user (from |
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developers to web porn watchers) and knowing the admins, they haven't |
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told me any problem with reiserfs yet. |
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For me, saying that reiserfs, XFS, JFS or ext3 is "production |
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environment ready" is a personal judgement, based on our experience, |
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knowledge of the fs, and support that is provided in some way. |
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If a gentoo user can't make his mind about wich one to use, that fact |
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that gentoo's favorite and most supported is XFS, should make his mind. |
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(and this is what developers want right?) |
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Also, saying that any of the mentioned before file systems is UNSTABLE I |
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believe it to be one overstatement. |
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thats just my though, the main line is.. make gentoo don't take sides |
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and be the more independent possible. |
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For instance, I don't like rmap VM, for know I prefer aa VM, and because |
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of that I use a "home grown" kernel version.... with o(1) scheduler + |
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preempt patches ... and in the same line of reason, in the future gentoo |
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might advise a user NOT to use some vanilla kernel. I think the most |
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gentoo should do is.. to advise the use of the gentoo kernel. More than |
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that is intrusive. |
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Miguel Sousa Filipe |
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one happy gentoo user from Portugal. (.pt) |
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p.s.: waiting for a workable alsa + kde ebuilds and gcc 3.1 in gentoo to |
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install it in my laptop =). (can't hardly wait) |
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...gentoo allready replaced debian in the smp workstation.. |