Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Fixing the TERM mess
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:56:19
Message-Id: 200508220851.25619.vapier@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Fixing the TERM mess by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On Sunday 21 August 2005 05:05 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2 > The terminfo method is provided by ncurses. It is considerably more
3 > powerful and has far fewer arbitrary restrictions upon database entry
4 > lengths. It is also less unmaintained than termcap.
5
6 actually it's actively maintained and the upstream author is a cool guy :)
7
8 > * Make everything that isn't xterm set its own TERM value. Possibly the
9 > same for things pretending to be rxvt, although this is less of an
10 > issue since I think everything that pretends to be rxvt is "rxvt plus
11 > some patches".
12
13 actually, latest ncurses + gnome-terminal break because gnome-terminal sets
14 TERM=xterm ... people proposed we revert some changes to ncurses but i denied
15 that in favor of making gnome-terminal export TERM=gnome
16 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91055
17
18 i think the gnome team is just ignoring this though ;)
19
20 > * Putty? Since I consider sshing from insecure systems irresponsible, I
21 > don't know much about this one, other than that it's another dirty
22 > liar and that said lying has caused various bugs in the past. Perhaps
23 > someone could clarify with details of what it pretends to support and
24 > what it really supports?
25
26 there is a TERM=putty setting isnt there ?
27
28 > Before I go any further with this, does anyone have a really really good
29 > reason why we should continue to make lots of users suffer because a few
30 > upstreams don't know what they're doing?
31
32 sounds like a good proactive step to me
33 -mike
34 --
35 gentoo-dev@g.o mailing list