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From: Wernfried Haas <amne@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:17:46
Message-Id: 20051122191356.GA20138@superlupo.rechner
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation by Chris Gianelloni
1 On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 11:33:04AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
2 > Just because you downloaded them previously does not mean you didn't
3 > download them.
4 Yes, but i already have them and don't need to download them any
5 more in this scenario.
6
7 > > Btw, if i use stage 3 and then emerge -e world to recompile my whole
8 > > system with -omg-optimized i assume stage 3 may lose against stage 1
9 > > and compiling -omg-optimized from the beginning. Not that it makes
10 > > much sense to do that though.
11 >
12 > *sigh*
13 >
14 > You have proven my point. Thank you.
15 No i haven't, but you're still welcome. Maybe i was not clear enough
16 about the definition of losing (see below).
17
18 > If you compile the same sources
19 > with the same settings, you get the same output. It doesn't matter if
20 > you started from a stage1, stage2, stage3, or stage4 tarball.
21 Sorry, I wasn't really refering to the output but the bytes used for
22 downloading the stage and the distfiles.
23 Assuming emerge -e world compiles exactly the same packages (same
24 versions as well) as stage 1 would mean you're a bit better off with
25 stage 1 because it's slightly smaller. Hence stage 3 may lose by a few
26 bytes here.
27
28 Look, i'm not arguing with you and even though i think stage 1 has
29 some cool features here i agree removing it may be a good idea. I just
30 wanted to point out there are _some_ specific situations where you're
31 better off with stage 1 under certain circumstances because you asked
32 if there's anything stage 1 can do that 3 doesn't. ;-)
33
34 cheers,
35 Wernfried
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