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Jakub Moc wrote: [Sun Mar 04 2007, 05:30:37PM CST] |
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> Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): |
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> > On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:08:40 +0100 Jakub Moc <jakub@g.o> wrote: |
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> |
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> >> Erm, to be precise here, noone has removed any ciaranm's attributions |
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> >> from devmanual, they've all been moved to the end of the document |
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> >> originally, so that people wouldn't be forced to scroll across one |
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> >> page worth of contributors to get to the actual content of devmanual. |
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> > |
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> > Nnnnnnope. All credits except for one name (of someone whose |
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> > contributions were limited to a few sentences) were removed from the |
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> > front page entirely, completely in violation of the licence. |
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> |
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> Erm yes, you wanted bigger fonts on a front page, already said that |
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> multiple times (plus everyone can read the bug). Noone removed any |
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> credits from the doc itself, they were moved to a different place for |
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> the reason I've stated above. |
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> Stop this already, we've been thru this once and that's been really |
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> enough, I fail to see why are you bringing up this issue here again and |
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> abusing it for completely false generalisations (as quoted by seemant in |
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> his mail). |
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*Sigh* If you're a bystander trying to figure out who's right here in |
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this little thread about the devmanual, the answer is "neither". Or |
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"both". Take your pick. |
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Here's what happened, to the best of my recollection. Back when ciaranm |
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was a Gentoo dev, he wrote the majority of an unofficial ebuild |
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development guide--the "devmanual". Several other devs contributed |
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various sections, but most of the content was Ciaranm's. When ciaranm |
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was booted, that work would have been lost, but plasmaroo, with Ciaran's |
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eventual permission, hosted the original doc in his dev space. The |
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original devmanual was written using Restructured Text (like our GLEPs), |
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along with various scripts that ciaranm wrote to assemble all of the |
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bits and pieces properly into a coherent online guide. Plasmaroo and |
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halcy0n converted the restructured text to guidexml. In doing so, the |
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list of authors was moved to an appendix, with the front page |
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prominently crediting ciaranm (but none of the other authors), and |
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listing plasmaroo and halcy0n where the list of authors used to reside. |
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(It know it listed them as "Editors" eventually. Did it originally list |
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them as "Authors"? I don't remember.) Ciaranm complained that the |
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Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license that was used didn't |
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permit relegating the list of authors to an appendix. That was the |
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complaint. I can't seem to find the bug right now, but it does make |
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interesting reading if you can find it. |
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The original rationale for moving the author list to an appendix was |
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because it was quite long, and plasmaroo and halcy0n assumed that most |
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readers didn't really care. I doubt that any malice was intended. |
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Ciaranm pointed out on one of the mailing lists (-dev, I assume), that |
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this relocation of the author list violates the license. My |
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recollection was that his original post was polite and factual (and |
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probably quite terse). The thread (and later bug) then spiralled out of |
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control, with a considerable number of accusations, counter-accusations, |
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and misunderstandings. No, ciaranm wasn't complaining that he "wanted a |
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bigger font on the front page". As far as I could tell, he simply |
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wanted due credit for the other authors. Yes, that initial polite post |
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by ciaranm was followed by many vitriolic posts by him that did no good |
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whatsoever. Impressively, hardly anybody actually focussed on whether |
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or not the devmanual CC license was, in fact, being violated. After an |
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insane amount of fighting I suggested a simple compromise (that I |
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thought would satisfy the license) where the full list of authors would |
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be listed on the front page as a simple, compact list of names. The |
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appendix would still detail which author wrote what. That's what you'll |
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see on the current devmanual, and as far as I know everybody involved is |
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content with that solution. |
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Morale? Heck if I know. Perhaps it should be no more than "get your |
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facts straight, or you'll have to deal with another annoyingly lengthy |
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post from g2boojum". |
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Yours tiredly, |
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g2boojum |
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-- |
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Grant Goodyear |
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Gentoo Developer |
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g2boojum@g.o |
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http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum |
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