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| On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:41:30 -0700, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote: |
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|>Luke-Jr posted <200409272020.58709.luke-jr@×××××××.org>, excerpted below, |
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|>on Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:20:55 +0000: |
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|>>On Monday 27 September 2004 7:50 pm, Travis Tilley wrote: |
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|>>>wtf crack monkey voted to remove dhcpcd from the system profile? i |
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|>>>dunno about you guys, but i like actually being able to connect to the |
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|>>>internet. it's as essential as ifconfig. |
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|>>>since i'd like to at least have a usable system of some kind, i've |
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|>>>re-added dhcpcd to the amd64 2004.3 profile. please do me a favor and |
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|>>>do NOT remove it again. |
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|>>I didn't do it, but dhcpcd sure isn't essential to get an internet |
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|>>connection. I've heard of various other methods such as setting a static |
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|>>IP, PPPoE, PPP/dialup, pump (BOOTP/DHCP client), etc... IMO, removing it |
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|>>was a good idea. |
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|>No kidding. I'm on amd64 here, and don't need nor want dhcp-anything. It |
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|>doesn't belong in the default profile, any more than NetBIOS over TCP/IP |
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|>belongs in the MS default profile. If it's not needed, as it isn't for |
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|>many folks, it shouldn't be installed, for security reasons. |
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| If you think that removing dhcpcd pisses *you* off... perhaps you can |
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| explain why there aren't any ftp/http clients on the livecds? |
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| *someone* thought it would be a good idea... hence... i've been |
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| "cooking" my own livecds with actual useful stuff on them... ncftp, |
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| elinks, NO dhcpcd, automatic network configs that conform to *MY* |
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| networks 10.0.x.x vs 192.168.x.x with default nameservers/gateways |
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| already active... in regards to *your* configurations, travis, just |
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| wondering, are you building dedicated machines with static public ips? |
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| (i've done it over ssh... thanks ovh.net!) |
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| Rarely, if ever, do I personally have a machine that *requires* dhcp |
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| to install/setup/etc... and if i do... "emerge dhcpcd" seems to work |
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| alright for me, y'know? I'm currently managing about 4 machines (I |
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| know, not that many) that have dhcpcd installed on them because I |
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| don't have the time to go fuck with the default profiles and *REMOVE* |
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| it, despite these particular machines having static PUBLIC ips.. |
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| *your* particular dependance on dhcpcd shouldn't be the subject of |
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| public debate. *your* particular dependance on dhcpcd should be |
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| handled by you, on *your* personal machine by simply emerging dhcpcd |
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| along with *your* choice of bootloader, *your* choice of system logger |
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| and *your* choice of cron daemon. |
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| this is the beauty of gentoo... please, leave *your* personal |
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| preferences out of *your* decision making process when it effects |
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| *your* users. |
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| this isn't a flame... only a request for sanity. |
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