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From: Doug Goldstein <cardoe@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: removing dhcpcd from system???
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:22:20
Message-Id: 415A0039.5090302@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: removing dhcpcd from system??? by Allen Parker
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4 Allen Parker wrote:
5 | On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:41:30 -0700, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
6 |
7 |>Luke-Jr posted <200409272020.58709.luke-jr@×××××××.org>, excerpted below,
8 |>on Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:20:55 +0000:
9 |>
10 |>
11 |>
12 |>
13 |>>On Monday 27 September 2004 7:50 pm, Travis Tilley wrote:
14 |>>
15 |>>>wtf crack monkey voted to remove dhcpcd from the system profile? i
16 |>>>dunno about you guys, but i like actually being able to connect to the
17 |>>>internet. it's as essential as ifconfig.
18 |>>>
19 |>>>since i'd like to at least have a usable system of some kind, i've
20 |>>>re-added dhcpcd to the amd64 2004.3 profile. please do me a favor and
21 |>>>do NOT remove it again.
22 |>>
23 |>>I didn't do it, but dhcpcd sure isn't essential to get an internet
24 |>>connection. I've heard of various other methods such as setting a static
25 |>>IP, PPPoE, PPP/dialup, pump (BOOTP/DHCP client), etc... IMO, removing it
26 |>>was a good idea.
27 |>
28 |>No kidding. I'm on amd64 here, and don't need nor want dhcp-anything. It
29 |>doesn't belong in the default profile, any more than NetBIOS over TCP/IP
30 |>belongs in the MS default profile. If it's not needed, as it isn't for
31 |>many folks, it shouldn't be installed, for security reasons.
32 |
33 |
34 | If you think that removing dhcpcd pisses *you* off... perhaps you can
35 | explain why there aren't any ftp/http clients on the livecds?
36 | *someone* thought it would be a good idea... hence... i've been
37 | "cooking" my own livecds with actual useful stuff on them... ncftp,
38 | elinks, NO dhcpcd, automatic network configs that conform to *MY*
39 | networks 10.0.x.x vs 192.168.x.x with default nameservers/gateways
40 | already active... in regards to *your* configurations, travis, just
41 | wondering, are you building dedicated machines with static public ips?
42 | (i've done it over ssh... thanks ovh.net!)
43 |
44 | Rarely, if ever, do I personally have a machine that *requires* dhcp
45 | to install/setup/etc... and if i do... "emerge dhcpcd" seems to work
46 | alright for me, y'know? I'm currently managing about 4 machines (I
47 | know, not that many) that have dhcpcd installed on them because I
48 | don't have the time to go fuck with the default profiles and *REMOVE*
49 | it, despite these particular machines having static PUBLIC ips..
50 |
51 | *your* particular dependance on dhcpcd shouldn't be the subject of
52 | public debate. *your* particular dependance on dhcpcd should be
53 | handled by you, on *your* personal machine by simply emerging dhcpcd
54 | along with *your* choice of bootloader, *your* choice of system logger
55 | and *your* choice of cron daemon.
56 |
57 | this is the beauty of gentoo... please, leave *your* personal
58 | preferences out of *your* decision making process when it effects
59 | *your* users.
60 |
61 | this isn't a flame... only a request for sanity.
62 |
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67 |
68 Generally flames don't have "*your*" in bold every 5th word and aren't
69 highly accusatory and designed to lash out at someone.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: removing dhcpcd from system??? Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@g.o>