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On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 23:49, William Kenworthy wrote: |
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> I posted this to the gentoo-user list by mistake last night (it was |
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> after midnight and ...) - wondered why I didnt get too many |
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> flames/replies! |
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Glad to know you were actually 'one of us' as in, you took time to get |
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information on what should be set on the Gentoo make.conf file. |
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> 3. optimisations were EXACTLY as recommended by both the make.conf |
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> entries, which were supported by the cflags from the forum for this cpu: |
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> a 2G celery (P4 based core) I am not sure now, but I believe I ran |
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> prelink as well (to match mandrake) - need to find and check the notes. |
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Having read a couple of posts before yours, i'm quite scared to learn |
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that prelink could lead to an unstable system. I've never emerged it on |
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my gentoo and was considering doing so, anyone could enlighten me on the |
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possible risks on this ? I am looking at more stability over speed |
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improvements and have been very satisfied with my 1.4rc3 install so far. |
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> So how many gentoo systems out there have every possible optimisation in |
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> the book, and are actually running slower than ideal? This is a real |
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> problem, and I will be interested in how the cflags projects around |
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> handle this, as most seem to aim at setting the maximum possible flags: |
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> not actually tune the system for the ones that work best/most stably. A |
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> live benchmark test might be more appropriate. |
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CFLAGS are the key-point to my knowledge, i am not a compiler specialist |
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but i don't even put specific optimisations anymore on my Gentoo, just |
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keep -march=athlon-xp -03 and that is all. |
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> Most posts on irc and lists have settled down to "he doesnt know what |
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> he's doing" (I do), or the tests were unfair to gentoo (they werent, but |
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> then the same criteria were met by all 3 systems, but with some question |
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> marks over debian because of its mix - some packages had to be compiled |
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> locally, not binary) - but the thrust of the article was not that gentoo |
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> was a dud, but that this was the result within the criteria and time we |
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> were given, not what we expected, so we need to find out why. Also note |
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> that this was not intentionally a debian/mandrake/gentto distro test. |
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Well you have to admit that reading the test doesn't give a lot of |
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informations about what was done ... This is where people begun picking |
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on you. If that had been a bit more detailed, the feedback would have |
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been better i'm sure, exactly as you have currently done with your post. |
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> If you want to flame, go ahead - but support your statements! |
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No flame concerning myself, i'm glad to have a better understanding of |
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what was done. Plus you are not the first one mentioning that Gentoo |
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depending on its optimisations (read my words on this : depending) is |
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slower than Mandrake for instance (which has done quite a nice job |
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lately on speed). |
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Steph |
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Mail sent on Gentoo 1.4rc3 k2.6-test3 AMD 2600+ |
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http://frlinux.net - frlinux@×××××××.net |
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http://gentoofr.org - Portail Francais sur Gentoo Linux |
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