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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 20:01:39
Message-Id: 200605172136.03903.pauldv@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles by Stephen Bennett
1 On Wednesday 17 May 2006 18:39, Stephen Bennett wrote:
2 > On Wed, 17 May 2006 17:39:02 +0200
3 >
4 > Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o> wrote:
5 > > Wouldn't the introduction of the virtual not fix that. This
6 > > introduction could be done independent of anything related to
7 > > paludis. The introduction of such a virtual would also help other
8 > > package managers like pkgcore.
9 >
10 > That would address some of the immediate concerns, but not any longer
11 > term issues -- the default provider in all profiles would still be
12 > portage, which requires nasty hackery at system install time, for a
13 > start. I'd view changing the system dep to the virtual as a good thing
14 > in itself, but not a substitute for a profile in the tree.
15
16 The virtual is by default provided by the installed version. As it is
17 necessary to install paludis to use it (even for system install) I don't
18 think this is actually a problem. At the point where paludis is in a later
19 stage of its development and acceptance, paludis specific profiles can be
20 created. As I have argued before, I think that there are various enhancements
21 that should be made to paludis before this can happen.
22
23 In short, I don't think that paludis is ready to become an official secondary
24 package manager.
25
26 Personally I would only endorse a secondary package manager if I can go to
27 install it on my current system and use it without fear of losing things.
28 Even if I decide to discontinue using it. Having to remerge (automatically)
29 some packages for it would be acceptable, but I believe that it can be
30 avoided.
31
32 Paul
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35 Paul de Vrieze
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