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On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 20:29 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: |
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> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:10:30 -0600 |
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> Steev Klimaszewski <steev@g.o> wrote: |
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> > The problem isn't finding someone that has everything - we have people |
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> > that test on ARMv5, some that test on ARMv6, we have some that test on |
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> > ARMv7 - until ALL of them are tested, it doesn't get stabled on ARM. |
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> > So again, it just shuffles around the work, and does nothing to |
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> > address the actual problem which is manpower with people that have |
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> > the slower machines to finish their testing. Unless you would like |
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> > to suggest that we maybe just say fuck anyone using a slow machine? |
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> Consider how packages would rarely get stabilized if we had to wait for |
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> all arches to test them first before adding any stable keyword at all. |
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Theoretical, again, as always, and not even worth considering because it |
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doesn't reflect reality. |
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> Organize first, then get more manpower; otherwise we say the F-word to |
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> everyone with a faster machine. Joining arm with a slower configuration |
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> and have everyone waiting on you is a working condition to avoid; so, |
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> we could have the slower configuration stabilize at its own pace. |
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> Would we say F-word to 'em? No, we give them better working conditions. |
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We're all adults here, you can say fuck. And the entire point of the |
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emails were that the slow arches were bringing us down, and we need to |
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zomg stable fastar fastar fastar. |
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For the record, the ARM team does just fine in stabling things in a |
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reasonable amount of time, so no, we aren't going to change our working |
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methods. The point of this email thread was we all need to stable |
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faster, and slower arches need to just become unstable only, and fuck |
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them. And I'm saying everyone needs to step back because stabling |
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things faster and faster doesn't allow for proper testing. |
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As QA, you should be focusing on making stable, actually stable, not |
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more bleeding edge. |