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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] sys-apps/texinfo vs @system
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 05:54:57
1 the new texinfo-5.x series has rewritten makeinfo in perl. the main `info`
2 program is still in pure C.
4 when it comes to packages installing .info pages, it's largely limited to the
5 GNU projects as the format has never really caught on. many of those projects
6 also install man pages.
8 personally, i've never found info pages usable. for most utils, the man pages
9 or the --help output is sufficient, and for people doing heavy development, the
10 online html manuals are significantly more useful.
12 when it was pure C, i could live with it as it's only <1MiB and no real deps
13 to speak of. now it's more like 3MiB, and pulls in 3 semi-uncommon additional
14 perl packages (not to mention perl itself).
16 it's in @system for two reasons: it provides `info` and `makeinfo`. the
17 former is for reading info pages (i.e. RDEPEND) while the latter is used for
18 generating info pages (i.e. DEPEND) when the tarball didn't ship with them
19 pregenerated (they usually do).
21 one option would be to make the makeinfo stuff into a USE flag so all the perl
22 junk isn't pulled in by default. only the packages that actually generate
23 info pages can DEPEND on that.
25 it'd be simpler if we just dropped it altogether from @system. if people want
26 `info`, they can `emerge` it themselves. if packages want `makeinfo`, they
27 can DEPEND on it -- few fall into this category (<100 by a rough survey of
28 random Gentoo installs).
30 obviously my preference is for the latter.
31 -mike


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Subject Author
[gentoo-dev] Re: sys-apps/texinfo vs @system Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-apps/texinfo vs @system "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-apps/texinfo vs @system Doug Goldstein <cardoe@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-apps/texinfo vs @system "Diego Elio Pettenò" <flameeyes@×××××××××.eu>
[gentoo-dev] Re: sys-apps/texinfo vs @system Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-apps/texinfo vs @system Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>