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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: dev-ada/cbind, net-dialup/dtrace, net-nds/lat, app-pda/jpilot-mail, net-dialup/drdsl, dev-util/insight, app-laptop/configure-trackpoint, x11-misc/lxmed, dev-util/ketchup, media-gfx/skencil... and others
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 08:04:05
Message-Id: 1477814631.1098.18.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: dev-ada/cbind, net-dialup/dtrace, net-nds/lat, app-pda/jpilot-mail, net-dialup/drdsl, dev-util/insight, app-laptop/configure-trackpoint, x11-misc/lxmed, dev-util/ketchup, media-gfx/skencil... and others by NP-Hardass
1 El sáb, 29-10-2016 a las 16:25 -0400, NP-Hardass escribió:
2 > On 10/29/2016 02:30 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
3 > >
4 > > On 10/29/2016 07:59 PM, NP-Hardass wrote:
5 > > >
6 > > > On 10/08/2016 07:57 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
7 > > > >
8 > > > > # Fails to build (#515294), nothing needs it, relies on
9 > > > > obsolete
10 > > > > capi4kutils. 
11 > > > >
12 > > >
13 > > > For all the packages being removed due to capi4kutils, how many
14 > > > were
15 > > > investigated with net-libs/libcapi?  For WINE, we transitioned to
16 > > > using
17 > > > libcapi instead of capi4kutils, and I don't see why some of those
18 > > > couldn't as well, provided the capi4kutils is the only reason why
19 > > > those
20 > > > are being treecleaned.
21 > > >
22 > >
23 > > Someone needs to take over responsibility for the packages
24 > > (maintainership) and fixing the issues then. If not, they should be
25 > > removed.
26 > >
27 >
28 > I'm only talking about the packages that have no other issues and are
29 > only being treecleaned because of this dependency.  Honestly, I don't
30 > care about any of those packages.  I only brought this up because
31 > sometimes it is better to only treeclean when appropriate, and if
32 > switching from one dep to another (which should have been virtual'd)
33 > resolves it, it might not still meet the conditions for tree
34 > cleaning.
35 > We don't normally tree clean packages simply because they are old or
36 > don't have a maintainer.
37 >
38 > So, I will reiterate my one and only point, for those that are only
39 > being removed due to the removal of capi4kutils, how many are still
40 > worthy of being treecleaned after swapping out that dep?
41 >
42 > If you feel that is too high a maintenance burden, fine, remove them
43 > all.  I'm merely proposing it be looked at since otherwise we are
44 > potentially removing packages that don't have to or shouldn't be
45 > removed.
46 >
47
48 For that concrete case you can see in their relevant bug reports that
49 most of them are completely dead for ages and were removed long time
50 ago in all the other distributions (that went out of using capi4kutils
51 also many time ago)