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I would be very interested in more detailed descriptions of the problems |
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that you encountered, I personally have my gentoo system installed with |
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over 750 packages (and I know others with over 800) and the only package |
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that I wish to use but which fails to merge correctly is openoffice (which |
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fails due to gcc issues not glibc issues, and is totally beyond our |
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control at the moment), it is important to note that we also have an |
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openoffice-bin package which installs from a binary package and therefore |
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should merge with no problems on most any gentoo linux system. |
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While you were having these problems, did you submit bugs to our bugzilla? |
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If the problems you were experienceing were truly errors in our system, |
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you would find that they generally get fixed within a day or two, if not |
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within a few hours (depends on the nature and complexity of the bug), did |
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you attempt to contact us during your problems? Many of the developers of |
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Gentoo are readily available on irc.openprojects.net #gentoo (along with |
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hundreds of users willing to help with problems, some will help with a |
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problem for hours until it is solved, as they did for me when I first |
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installed Gentoo months ago). |
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Again, I would be very interested in a complete listing of the packages |
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you experienced failures with, and if possible any logs of said failures, |
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as that would be truly helpful in improving gentoo for everyone. However |
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an e-mail of this sort is completely unhelpful and rather offensive. |
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Sincerely, |
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Brandon Low |
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Gentoo Developer |
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On Thu, 07/25/02 at 21:08:53 -0700, Gary Whysong wrote: |
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> I've been a Linux user since 1994 and looked forward to trying Gentoo |
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> Linux 1.2 on my IBM laptop. I cut my teeth on Slackware (kernel 0.94) |
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> and certainly have compiled my share of apps. from scratch. However, I |
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> doubt anyone is a complete master of all aspects of Linux. I certainly |
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> don't pretend to be. |
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> Initially, I had minor problems getting a basic Gentoo system up. |
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> Networking gave me a little trouble due to hardware problems, but those |
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> were resolved fairly quickly. |
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> |
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> My problem is with your portage system. Basically, almost 40% of the |
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> software I've tried to install doesn't. Some of it dies with no error |
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> messages, other's with the inability to simply create directories. Open |
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> Office wouldn't compile because your glibc's are too old and I couldn't |
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> find any newer one's on your site. Permission errors abound which is |
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> rather interesting when one is running as root. |
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> You're web site maintains that your portage system is better (in |
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> design?) than Debian's apt-get and BSD's ports systems. Unfortunately, |
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> you have yet to prove it to me. I've never tried Debian and won't, |
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> since I don't care for the "Debian attitude". I have used Free BSD's |
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> ports system and have yet to see it fail. Unfortunately, I can |
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> personally attest to the fact that portage does fail, and often. |
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> With that said, I would like to compliment you on a great concept for a |
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> Linux distribution. I strongly believe you are on the right track. |
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> Unfortunately, your package system needs significant improvement. I |
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> wish you the best of luck and may try your distribution again sometime |
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> in the future. However, at the present, I need a Linux system with |
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> working applications more quickly than the week of spare time I've |
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> already taken trying to build one with Gentoo. Thus, I have little |
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> alternative but to give up on Gentoo and install Mandrake or SuSE. |
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> |
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> I wish you the best of luck in improving your Linux distribution and |
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> look forwared to trying it again in the future. |
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> |
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> Sincerely, |
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> |
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> Gary Whysong |
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> Assoc. Professor |
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> Environmental Resources |
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> Arizona State Univ. East. (Gary.Whysong@×××.edu) |
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