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From: Joshua Jackson <tsunam@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:57:55
Message-Id: 44CD8D2C.8080203@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) by Ciaran McCreesh
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4 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
5 > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:20:16 -0500 "Alex Tarkovsky"
6 > <alextarkovsky@×××××.com> wrote:
7 > | This "no QA" accusation is a complete myth. QA led by actual Gentoo
8 > | developers is indeed in place at Sunrise [1].
9 >
10 > Did you look at *which* actual Gentoo developers are on the list?
11 >
12 > Even that aside, if a couple of hundred developers can't handle doing
13 > QA for all those maintainer-wanted ebuilds, what makes you think four
14 > people can?
15 >
16 Really now Ciaran, if you have issues with those people. Take it up
17 with them. You've yet to state a reason why it concerns you. Its no
18 better then the people who are saying that it'll be a huge QA issue
19 but they are not elaborating on it. As some are aware and some are
20 not, the basic job I do for gentoo is a QA one. I help to ensure the
21 x86 arch tree is hopefully as stable as possible. So if anything this
22 will affect me directly. I however want to see what the project can
23 do. If it does end up as a problem then it can be killed off, but
24 doing so before it has a chance to fly is part of what has been
25 keeping us from innovating as a distribution. It means we're maturing,
26 but we are still a community project and as such should be allowed to
27 fly with possibly wild idea's when it suits us.
28
29 As well, we are all human, as you are Ciaran. This means that we make
30 mistakes. However, what you are also asking is to NOT trust those
31 people who are qualified to be part of gentoo to be able to do the
32 work and perform it in a decent way. I will not begin to doubt any of
33 the people who have the gentoo flag as part of who they are because of
34 being human. As has been said as well, we learn more from the mistakes
35 we make then somehow having avoided it without realizing why.
36
37 Thirdly, I know one of the issues with one of the leaders of the
38 project, is the fact that they are not a ebuild developer. I'd like to
39 have them take the second quiz simply to prove that they have the
40 knowledge to be trusted to review the ebuilds. Course with the number
41 that he's seen I'm sure he's helped take care of things that would
42 make the rest of us go...how did they think that was ever a good idea.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o>