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On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 02:56:18PM -0500, Bruce A. Locke wrote: |
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> Hello... The following is a list of complains/observations/nitpicks and |
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> questions I have compiled after spending a couple of hours with rc5. |
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> Please feel free to correct me and point me to the friendly manual if I |
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> misunderstand something :) |
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Thanks for your great bug report list. rc6 will be a bugfix-release only, |
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so we will be focusing on issues like this. |
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> 1. If you are in one runlevel (such as 3) and telinit into another runlevel |
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> (such as 4) the network devices are always restarted. If this happens (why |
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> is another matter) you need to kill dhcpcd or else your dhcp using interfaces |
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> will be down'd and won't be up'd again |
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The current incarnation of the initscripts works this way. In reality, neither |
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solution is great and the best solution is to go to a dependency-based system |
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like jinit or simpleinit, which we will be doing for 1.0. |
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> 2. Galeon premade package segfaults with Mozilla premade package |
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> 3. How do you set a locale? none is set by default. |
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> 4. The XMMS portage doesn't install xmms.xpm. |
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OK, we need to fix this/add to docs/fix this. I always use the default locale |
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so I forget how to set them, but if I remember correctly, it's a simple as setting |
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an environment variable. |
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> 5. The gnome menus are empty (though I don't have much installed). Mandrake |
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> and other distributions have a menu generation system, does emerge, etc have |
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> such a feature that is being used by gnome and kde related packages? |
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We don't have one yet, but agree that it's a good idea. |
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> 6. Gtkhtml and evolution portage problems: |
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I'd like someone who uses GNOME on a daily basis to look into this. I'm a KDE guy |
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so I can't test this out right now. |
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> 7. The output of df on my box: |
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> [root@kodiak evolution]$ df |
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> Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
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> /dev/hda3 6297280 875276 5422004 14% / |
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> /dev 6297280 875276 5422004 14% /dev-state |
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> /dev/hda4 23317628 6505336 16812292 28% /home |
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> Erm... any way of hiding /dev-state? |
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Well, although this is a bit confusing, the /dev-state listing is technically correct. |
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A option to hide bind mounts may be a good thing to request from the GNU fileutils |
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people. |
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> 8. The devfs/swap issue mentioned before |
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Fixed on CVS. |
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> 9. Where is lsof? It should be installed as part of the core :) |
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I agree. For any developer interested in doing this, grab the dev-wiki task ( |
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to be posted in ~5 minutes) which will contain download location as well. It should |
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be put in sys-apps; see the future wiki entry for more info. |
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> 10. Is there a utility that lets you search for which package would contain a |
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> certain file? |
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grep -r foo /var/db/pkg/*/*/CONTENTS |
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Pretty fast on Reiserfs. |
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> 11. I've seen mandrake and redhat add symlinks from /etc/init.d to |
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> /etc/rc.d/init.d... isn't this required by the filesystem standard or LSB? |
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LSB is more restrictive about initscripts and we'll try to make our revised |
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jinit-based system compliant. We are not as excited about LSB as we are about |
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FHS; you know they recommend the use of RPM packages, don't you? Either that |
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or some kind of "in-development" packaging format that is being developed in |
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secret. Doesn't sound like the FHS team trusts the hacker community, if you |
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ask me. Anyway, off topic. |
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> 12. gdm was defaulting sessions to windowmaker which wasn't installed |
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> 13. gnome-terminal spits out a message about "locale not supported by C |
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> library", then I see the window for a brief second, and then it dies |
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OK, and OK. We'll fix 'em :) |
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> 14. When doing "emerge rsync clean" it complains that clean doesn't exist or |
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> is an invalid command-line option (emerge help lists it as an option) |
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I need to fix this. The offical option will me "emerge --clean rsync" or |
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"emerge rsync --clean". I'll update the docs too. |
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> 15. The gnome 1.4 virtual package didn't seem to install nautilus |
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> 16. If you install a virtual package such as gnome 1.4, why aren't all the |
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> packages built as dependencies given their own entrys in the package |
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> database? (or am I mistaken?) |
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15: OK, 16: they are. |
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> 17. With xinetd merged in, there were two entries in /etc/init.d for it, |
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> xinetd and svc-xinetd... what is the point/difference? |
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One starts xinetd as a standalone daemon; the other starts xinetd as a |
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supervised process (high-availability stuff). |
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> 18. Would it be possible to get a ebuild for xemacs-gnome-gtk? :) |
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Yes; we'll even allow you to write one if you'd so desire :) Anyone else |
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like to do this? |
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Daniel Robbins <drobbins@g.o> |
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President/CEO http://www.gentoo.org |
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Gentoo Technologies, Inc. |