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From: Jon Portnoy <avenj@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: amd64 Keywords
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:03:56
Message-Id: 20050401010353.GA24464@cerberus.oppresses.us
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: amd64 Keywords by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 01:52:18AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2 >
3 > Abstract
4 > ========
5 >
6 > The x86 and x86-64 architectures currently use different ``KEYWORDS`` values.
7 > This GLEP proposes a fix.
8 >
9 > Motivation
10 > ==========
11 >
12 > Currently, Gentoo uses the ``x86`` keyword to indicate the architecture
13 > used by IBM PCs with Intel 80x86 CPUs (and, of course, the clones). The
14 > ``x86-64`` architecture, which is ``x86`` with a small number of
15 > extensions for 64-bit numeric and 40 bit address support, is denoted by
16 > the confusing ``amd64`` keyword.
17 >
18
19 Blame AMD, they're the ones who called the technology AMD64 :)
20
21 > This situation is less than ideal for several reasons.
22 >
23 > Confusing and Inaccurate Name
24 > -----------------------------
25 >
26 > * Intel also produce x86-64 capable ('enabled' in PC marketing speak)
27 > CPUs. It is likely that other vendors will follow suit at some point in
28 > the future.
29 >
30
31 ..which are still using AMD's AMD64 technology
32
33 > * AMD also produce non-x86 (full) 64bit CPUs, which are covered by the
34 > mips keyword rather than the amd64 keyword.
35 >
36
37 Because they're based on mips technology, not amd64 technology, and are
38 never referred to in any AMD documentation as 'AMD64'
39
40 At any rate, I think this should be left up to the AMD64 team and not
41 forced on them via a GLEP. I don't think any architecture
42 team appreciates being told what's good for it by people who haven't
43 been dealing with the bugs :)
44
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46 Jon Portnoy
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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: amd64 Keywords Peter Cech <cech@×××××××××.sk>