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Simon Stelling wrote: |
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| Donnie Berkholz wrote: |
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|> - - Releng would work to ensure that installing Gentoo is as easy as |
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|> possible. |
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| This is very vague too. Easy for who? Easy for a user who is too lazy to |
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| read docs and doesn't have any experience or easy for a sysadmin with |
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| plenty of experience trying to setting up Gentoo on a cluster with >100 |
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| boxes? I think this makes it pretty clear that there is not simply one |
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| implementation referring to one idea, but I'm afraid that these 'goals' |
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| could be misused to force a common direction instead of having multiple |
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| efforts addressing the same idea in different ways. |
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I'm guessing that the vast majority of our users have Gentoo installed |
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on one or a few computers, and are typical hobbyists. That's who I would |
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target with making things easier, while trying to avoid regressions in |
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the other cases. |
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That could certainly use some research though. |
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|> - - The portage team could conduct usability studies of portage (perhaps |
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|> with the help of openusability.org?). |
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| 'to conduct usability studies' sounds great, but it's IMHO not much |
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| more. I don't need studies to point out annoying things from a user |
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| perspective, I'm a user myself. Sure, feedback is good, but we already |
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| get feedback, in the form of bug reports. |
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OK, but you're one user. Maybe you are very unusual and 99 out of 100 |
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other Gentoo users would do things totally differently. |
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| How do e.g. arches fit into this scheme? Yeah, sure, they make Gentoo |
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| easier to use because they keyword stuff. Great. I'm really glad |
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| somebody tells me why I am doing the stuff I've been doing for more than |
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| a year. |
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| So, the 'easy to learn/use' goal might be a goal that quite some |
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| projects already are trying to attain, but it really isn't *THE* goal |
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| for Gentoo, is it? |
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Who said we can only have one goal? |
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Thanks, |
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Donnie |
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