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From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What means bup?
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:53:08
Message-Id: d7309b82-712f-f5fa-38d4-b70e761f4528@iee.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What means bup? by Kent Fredric
1 On 23/09/18 22:27, Kent Fredric wrote:
2 > On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:36:23 -0500
3 > Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o> wrote:
4 >> My hand slipped. What ever happened to assuming the best :( Are you
5 >> going to ping the list every time my hand slips up and I mistype
6 >> something? Not sure you'll have time for it :P
7 > Personally, I would love it if more people tried harder to provide
8 > meaningful commit messages.
9 >
10 > "bup" vs "bump" isn't really achieving much, just one of the two are
11 > substantially more egregious.
12 >
13 > Perhaps, if the commit messages were crafted with clarity as their
14 > intent, the consequence of accidental typos would be much more
15 > inconsequential.
16 >
17 > ( I seriously think we could do with a *little* more chiding here than
18 > we generally see, but like, I'm typically just biting my tongue every
19 > time somebody doesn't invest any more effort than to write the word
20 > "bump" in their text editor when committing with repoman, cos I really
21 > don't want to be a dick about it. There's room for more than 4
22 > characters and a space in the subject, and infinitely more space in the
23 > body, why do we have to choose the least clear of all options? )
24 >
25 > Occasional accidents are still gonna happen, but it would be nice if we
26 > didn't define accidents and siblings of accidents as the status quo.
27 >
28 I think Kent has pretty much the point here .. we try to stipulate that
29 the commit message describes what the update is, and is clear for *all*
30 users of the repository, and not just the relevant maintainer. There is
31 also a cronic double-standard for existing or long-standing devs, and
32 newer devs, recruits and proxy-maintainers (who get a double-scrutiny
33 typically) - and I could easily see how this breeds resentment...
34
35 Perhaps it would be simple enough to add a check to repoman for commit
36 messages less than 10 characters, and with at least one *additional*
37 space, mandating two words in the commit message. It seems draconian,
38 but if developers continue to be lazy, what choice does one have?!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What means bup? Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>