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lxnay@××××××××××××.org wrote: |
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> Adding "@overlay" atoms/deps postfix support could really make life |
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> easier, especially because forcing specific atoms in *DEPEND hoping |
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> that these will be always pulled in from the same overlay is not |
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> something reliable, as you already know. |
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No. This is a terrible idea. The solution is to *fix the overlays*, not |
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force the user to intervene and fix things himself. |
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Conflicting overlay issues turn up on the Gentoo forums (check |
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Unsupported Software), and in pretty much all cases, once the |
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maintainer(s) of the overlay(s) are contacted about the issue, the |
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overlays are quickly fixed so that the next update sorts out the user's |
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tree. |
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Users should *not *have to take steps to fix overlay blocks and breaks |
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ahead of time; that should be the overlay maintainer's job, not the poor |
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end user. |
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> Comments are welcome, flames are not. |
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On that note, I'd like to offer a friendly word of caution, in the |
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interests of us all talking together and working through the ideas |
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presented in your threads. |
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In your last visit to our mailing list |
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(http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/55180), you stated |
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that you'd like to make some sweeping changes to Gentoo, then you |
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started telling the developers why they all sucked ahead of time for not |
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implementing said ideas. And then you kept telling developers that they |
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sucked throughout the rest of the replies. |
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You expressed unwillingness to work with Gentoo developers through our |
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admittedly long recruitment process, instead wanting to push your |
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changes to our tree directly. |
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There wasn't very much accomplished on either side at the end of that |
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debacle, except some hurt feelings. |
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It seems that the discussions you're having in the binary packages and |
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overlay threads are already heading the same direction, and I for one |
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don't want that to happen. Telling people they're not allowed to express |
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disagreement is counterproductive.[1][2] |
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[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/61555/focus=61568 |
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[2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/61530/focus=61560 |
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So, folks, just take it easy. We don't have to accept every suggestion |
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offered to the list, nor do we have to reject it out of hand. |
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Thanks. |