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On 6/20/19 9:53 AM, Brian Evans wrote: |
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>> +Following the acceptance of this GLEP, all new users and groups must |
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>> +be created via user/group packages as defined in this GLEP. The old |
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>> +method may still be used for existing users/groups, in existing |
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>> +packages. |
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>> +All new users and groups must have unique UIDs/GIDs assigned |
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>> +by developers. The developer adding them is responsible for checking |
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>> +for collisions. |
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> What significance will such numbers have when a daemon uses a new |
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> UID/GID and really doesn't care what it is? Why do we have to go |
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> through the effort of assigning fixed IDs at random? |
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People want this. Here's the thread from 2017: |
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https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/2355afd4f5b72651e2ff47ea8b10c1fe |
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Selectively quoting: |
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* I might be not following correctly, but due to how filesystems/etc |
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work it is probably desirable to have consistent UID/GIDs as much as |
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reasonably possible. -rich0 |
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* I don't think we need to have stable UIDs/GIDs in the "normal" case |
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of standalone users with a single Gentoo system at home. The people |
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who need predictable UIDs/GIDs are the "enterprise" users or the |
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home users who use things such as NFS. I work for a company that |
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uses Gentoo, we have a bunch of workarounds to make sure that UIDs |
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and GIDs are stable. -chutzpah |
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* I for one am more than willing to do whatever shell commands |
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necessary to make all my Gentoo installs agree on UIDs and get |
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[fixed UID proposal] now, but I realise most people are not. |
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-A. Wilcox |
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* YES! I think after [fixed UIDs] is finalized, it should be part of |
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the handbook installation as a default, but selectable. -james |
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* If the user does not exist then create it. Preferably use a pre- |
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assigned UID/GID so there is some consistency with most other |
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Gentoo things out there. -Alan McKinnon |
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This will make a lot of peoples' lives easier, and is very easy to do. |
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