Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo? Where went Fido?

[Alec Warner]

Jim Northrup wrote:

>Aron Griffis wrote:
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>>This is kinda bloggish, because it's basically a transcription of an
>>IRC monologue.  My apologies if it's hard to follow...
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>This thread started out garnering cheers of elitest developer
>sentiment.  There was even some mention of  "if they don't like it they
>can run something else".
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>Then, that notion was reeled in, the developers are part of the user
>community.
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>There is an open debate as to the meaning of support for 'enterprise',
>'cluster', and 'hobbyist';
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>does gentoo mean any of these?
>
>In this thread I posted a suggested hack which must surely have been
>suggested before my reading/perusal of gentoo-dev, but also addresses a
>tangible element, growth.
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>-- Portage's power is too great in one place, it should be forged in the
>hottest fires into the form of many rings for the leaders among gentoo,
>with one ring to bind them.
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>Gentoo portage is growing, gentoo's communication network is growing in
>complexity, and gentoo's organization is growing.
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>I saw it interesting that this is what describes the rise and fade of
>FIDO net.
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>First there were hobbyist, later came zealots, some with bad attitudes,
>and eventually a full fledged organization devoted to handling the
>politics, which grew large enough for division into zones.  There were
>online businesses thriving from its value as well as the very
>resourceful and isolated folks who had no other means of communicating
>among the world at large.
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>One of fido's most interesting feature was its initial recognition that
>its growth needed structure, and that structure was formed.   fido's own
>politiks from around the world failed to vote for survival of the
>IFNA(International FidoNet Association).  So fido dissolved its official
>entity, and continuted to grow.  Fido became a concept which spun off
>saplings and intertwined with the net, but in majority  of years it was
>run by the folks with the biggest toys.
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>I mention fido because of one similarity which is uncannily familiar.
>"only" 26% of the potential voters recently cast a vote for the gentoo
>metastructure.  we saw some puzzlement, bordering on grumbling, and some
>amusement: "eeeyup that must be us!".
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>sooo. back to growth...
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>does the portage design foretell a single monolithic repo growing ad
>infinitum?  this is the common watering hole which draws every single
>participant to the same well.
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> it's gotta work, 'emerge world' has gotta fly.   does tinderbox
>indicate this is a predictable outcome with a stable margin of error, as
>t approaches infinity?
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The portage team has tons of great ideas up their sleeves to make 
portage better, multiple repos being just one of the many.  I'll let 
them preach their stuff for now, lest I let slip ideas that never see 
the light of day ;)  Regardless changes are coming and they definately 
make me very excited.
-Alec Warner
Ajec

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