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On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 06:10, Steven Elling wrote: |
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> On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 02:32, Paul de Vrieze wrote: |
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> > On Friday 06 February 2004 09:14, Stewart Honsberger wrote: |
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> > > Paul de Vrieze wrote: |
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> > > > Basically muttrc is not of the same class as passwd, fstab and group. If |
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> > > > you're up to it, just move the three to somewhere else and reboot. After |
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> > > > that I think you can appreciate that one must not be enabled to |
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> > > > overwrite them. |
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> > > |
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> > > Some people run Linux because they don't like their operating system |
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> > > protecting their toes from their own firearms. |
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> > |
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> > Maybe my wording was a bit too harsh. But I cannot see the point of offering |
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> > the user the option of replacing his passwd/fstab/group with one that with |
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> > 99% certainty is wrong |
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> > |
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> > Paul |
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> More importantly; which has been brought to the attention of the devs |
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> and ignored; is that useradd, userdel, usermod, groupadd, groupdel, |
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> groupmod or similar should be used the modify /etc/password and |
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> /etc/group. |
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Which ever way you look at this, its a tacky issue. Some people do not |
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want an ebuild to auto change these, so do. You cannot really leave |
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._cfg* around, as your newer users have the hang of messing the merge |
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(exactly the reason why baselayout do not let passwd and shadow leave |
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._cfg*'s around) |
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My personal opinion to this is that if something need a new user/group, |
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then baselayout should get it added for new installs (but not leave a |
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._cfg* around - thus existing do not get updated), but the ebuild should |
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add it via enewuser and enewgroup (eutils.eclass), as it will then only |
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be done for those needing it, and the risk is much lower. For those not |
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wanting portage to tweak, we might introduce a USE flag, but until we |
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can get portage to display _all_ messages post bulk merge, it is not |
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really feasible, as the message to add the user gets lost in the noise. |
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Martin Schlemmer |
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Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer |
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Cape Town, South Africa |
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