Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2018 17:31:20
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs by Rich Freeman
1 On 05/08/18 18:24, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:01 PM Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> wrote:
3 >>
4 >> Part of my frustration is that seemingly "anything open source related
5 >> can be held in Gentoo" and I'm somewhat against that as I feel it
6 >> dilutes the Gentoo mission. We are here to make a distribution, not
7 >> maintain random libraries. If you want to do that feel free; but I
8 >> don't see a need for that work to be associated with Gentoo.
9 >>
10 > Honestly, other than maybe some prestige I don't really get the point
11 > of hosting random software in Gentoo either. These days getting a
12 > repo on github or any of its 47 competitors is a few clicks. You have
13 > zero overhead from a governance standpoint, and a dev can of course
14 > stick ebuilds in the main repository with zero interference. It seems
15 > a lot cleaner from a copyright/etc standpoint as well.
16 >
17 > Even openrc is hosted outside of Gentoo these days, which makes perfect sense.
18 >
19 > With the distro as a whole it is a bit more complex, though honestly
20 > I'd love to see us get to a point where the whole thing can be
21 > SECURELY hosted entirely off-infra as well, even if we still chose to
22 > run our own infra. I just see it as a way to both provide options to
23 > our users and ourselves. For the latter, being able to host anything
24 > on an outside service means that if some component of infra goes down
25 > we could have mirrors already running and pulling from infra, or if
26 > for some reason somebody sues us or roots us or whatever we can pick
27 > up and move without much fuss.
28 >
29 > Running your own wiki/bugzilla/lists/etc was about the only way to do
30 > things in the 90s/etc, but these days there are other options...
31 >
32 "Cloud-based Gentoo" - yeah I see *absolutely no issues* with this ...
34 </sarcasm>


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