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From: Carlos Silva <r3pek@×××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 17:15:20
Message-Id: CA+ZvHYGmwAsF8UCTH2xsHF0=Aph+qw71m+cQQR9fAoWEPWLzWw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) by Pacho Ramos
1 Ben, you're really just being a child here. Is that a really big problem to
2 add a small text file to your package?! Is that a big maintaining burden?
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4 If you can't test it, systemd team can, just like there are arch teams to
5 test packages on other archs the maintainers can't. It's not something that
6 changes code or functionality to that level that it can't be maintained
7 with help.
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9 Nobody is forcing you to use systemd, there are just people how are asking
10 to let them use it.
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12 You talk a lot about Gentoo is about choice, but you are not giving that
13 choice. You're forcing people to *not* use systemd (not using something
14 else), because you don't like it. Plain simple.
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17 On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> wrote:
18
19 > El dom, 26-05-2013 a las 00:14 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
20 > > I'm taking this from https://bugs.gentoo.org/412697 to the dev mailing
21 > > list, since this discussion doesn't really belong on bugzilla.
22 > >
23 > > Some background copied from the bug report:
24 > [...]
25 >
26 > Probably your following comment in bug report summarizes the real
27 > reasons pointing you to not apply that patch after waiting a year for
28 > upstream action:
29 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412697#c8
30 >
31 > Reading your comments in bug report gave me the impression of you
32 > refusing to provide the unit file simply to try to interfere as much as
33 > possible with getting higher systemd compatibility in Gentoo, even if I
34 > don't see how adding the unit file will hurt openrc users and how it
35 > will hurt you (as co-maintainer) when another dev is taking care of unit
36 > file and systemd team can also maintain it.
37 >
38 > We can now have long discussions about upstream decisions, how to handle
39 > devrel problems... but I think it's much more easy: this kind of
40 > "boycott" attitudes should stop in favor of common sense.
41 >
42 >
43 >