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From: "Kevin F. Quinn" <kevquinn@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] C++ herd proposal
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 06:53:55
Message-Id: YRDUPV.2107063880AYN9ZV@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] C++ herd proposal by Georgi Georgiev
1 On 20/9/2005 7:37:19, Georgi Georgiev (chutz@×××.net) wrote:
2 > maillog: 20/09/2005-07:21:08(+0200): Christian Parpart types
3 > > On Monday 19 September 2005 15:22, warnera6 wrote:
4 > > > Mark Loeser wrote:
5 > > > > Paul de Vrieze wrote:
6 > > > >> I think that dev-util is a very specific category containing
7 > > > >> development utilities of some sort. There might be some
8 > > > >> misclassifications in them, but from a user perspective I don't
9 > > > >> really care about the language anything is written in. As C++ is so
10 > > > >> widespread I don't think that anything but app-misc or the like
11 > > > >> should be moved into a dev-cpp category.
12 > > > >
13 > > > > This isn't for what the package is written in, but more for what the
14 > > > > package is for. If the package is a utility for use when doing
15 > > > > coding with C++, like the ones I listed, then I think it should be
16 > > > > in dev-cpp. That's what the metadata for the category describes it
17 > > > >to be.
18 > > > > Mark
19 > > >
20 > > > Once again I'd like to point out that organizing packages in the tree
21 > > > by category is a stupid idea for this very reason.
22 > >
23 > > and what's *your* certain proposal then?
24 >
25 > That's been discussed a number of times already. The best idea is to
26 > leave the categories alone and forget that the category means anything.
27 > Or, to throw the ball back in your court, could *you* suggest
28 > alternatives that accomplish the following:
29 >
30 > (quoting [1]:)
31 >
32 > More precisely, what I'd like to see, in order of preference, is
33 >
34 > - that package in my overlay that has net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager
35 > in its *DEPENDs to work for as long as needed
36 > - the net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager that I have in my overlay to work
37 > for as long as needed
38 > - my net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager binary packages to work without
39 > having to be "fixpackage"d
40 > - the location of the ebuilds for net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager to
41 > stay in the same physical path on my filesystem
42 >
43 > end quote
44 > I would grade the above features as "vital", "badly needed", "happy to
45 > see it done", "cosmetic". I.e., even solving only the first one is
46 > enough, though if you could get to number two it would be better.
47
48
49 Here's another requirement I'd like to add to the list:
50
51 - when moving stuff around, change history moves too
52
53 CVS doesn't support this, but subversion does (along with atomic commits,
54 also useful to ensure integrity of the tree during a move). The support
55 for symlinks in subversion may also provide a way to resolve the overlay
56 problem...
57
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] C++ herd proposal Martin Schlemmer <azarah@××××××××××××.org>