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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Why adding python3_8 to Gentoo sucks?
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:22:47
Message-Id: a753b97868c5e36e5c82a50899b9085d600faaf0.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Why adding python3_8 to Gentoo sucks? by Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov
1 On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 15:04 +0300, Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov wrote:
2 > В письме от пятница, 15 ноября 2019 г. 13:47:12 MSK пользователь Mart Raudsepp
3 > написал:
4 > > Ühel kenal päeval, R, 15.11.2019 kell 13:20, kirjutas Alexey 'Alexxy'
5 > >
6 > > Shvetsov:
7 > > > В письме от пятница, 15 ноября 2019 г. 11:45:32 MSK пользователь
8 > > > Michał Górny
9 > > >
10 > > > написал:
11 > > > > On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 11:41 +0300, Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov wrote:
12 > > > > > I think problem is more global:
13 > > > > > * many python3_6 packages dont have python3_7 keywords, because
14 > > > > > its
15 > > > > > maintainers dont bother about it. So if you want to switch to
16 > > > > > python3_7
17 > > > > > you
18 > > > > > still need manualy add python3_7 use for many packages (that
19 > > > > > actualy work
20 > > > > > without problems
21 > > > > > * we need policy for python packages that force enablement of new
22 > > > > > python
23 > > > > > version on existing packages.
24 > > > >
25 > > > > Policy makes little sense if there's no way to enforce it.
26 > > > >
27 > > > > If you tested some package on py3.7 and depgraph, just add it
28 > > > > there.
29 > > >
30 > > > Some people dont like it =D And some arches (doesnt matter if i have
31 > > > such hw
32 > > > and tested on it)
33 > >
34 > > People mostly don't like it when you throw unrelated changes on top of
35 > > that, under the guise of just python target addition, especially when
36 > > they are also broken changes and involve a revbump without maintainers
37 > > involvement (just PYTHON_TARGETS addition doesn't). Or if it actually
38 > > doesn't work with the added python targets.
39 >
40 > As i remember some decades ago policy was: revbump needed if you change
41 > chnages stuff installed on filesystem. So in case of py addition it is. So what
42 > changed?
43 >
44 > Are there some new written rules that says in what case you need revbump and
45 > in what it needed?
46
47 https://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/ebuild-revisions/index.html
48
49 --
50 Best regards,
51 Michał Górny

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