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On 10/29/19 19:08, Patrick McLean wrote: |
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> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:03:15 +0000 |
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> James Le Cuirot <chewi@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:23:20 -0700 |
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>> Patrick McLean <chutzpah@g.o> wrote: |
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>>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:10:37 +0100 |
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>>> Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@g.o> wrote: |
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>>>> Anyone else who thinks this should not be restricted to just |
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>>>> desktop profiles? |
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>>> I am not aware of any use cases for elogind/consolekit on servers, |
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>>> it's really for machines where you have to distinguish between |
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>>> someone connecting remotely and someone physically using a |
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>>> keyboard/mouse connected to the machine. |
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>> I switched from consolekit to elogind on my normally headless ARM box. |
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>> It runs XMMS2 and outputs through PulseAudio. Under consolekit, my |
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>> user's /var/run directory would disappear after a while, taking the |
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>> pulse socket with it. Under elogind, I was able to set my user to |
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>> "linger", which fixed the issue. It's not a typical use case but yeah, |
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>> they do have uses outside of desktop. |
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> Which sounds like perfect for a local setup, probably not something |
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> that should be in a generic profile. |
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The bulk of the proposed news item is apropos packages and the reason |
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that the profiles are changing, not actually profile specific |
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considerations; and running a desktop environment hardly requires |
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running a desktop profile. Given that the news is largely in regards to |
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specific packages it seems logical that it would more fully reach the |
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user base affected by the causal changes were it simply directed to |
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those with the package being deprecated installed (as indicated in the |
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proposed news item) without regard for what profile they are using. |
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Beyond that, I'm not aware of any advantages to limiting it to desktop |
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profiles despite the direct cause of the news item being a transition in |
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the profiles; while targeting it more generally does provide the benefit |
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of reminding users who are not using a desktop profile to at least |
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consider following suit prior to last rites on a package that they have |
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installed thereby providing a better user experience on the whole. |