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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Cc: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New QA Policy Guide
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:08:48
Message-Id: CAGfcS_kSpEON3jUYaykf7Ccod8vSo=fhVFughfdp6S3wVrjG4Q@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] New QA Policy Guide by Ulrich Mueller
1 On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 6:46 AM Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o> wrote:
2 >
3 > >>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020, Michał Górny wrote:
4 >
5 > > The sources are stored in proj/policy-guide.git [3]. If you wish to
6 > > submit your own changes, you can either use the 'Policy Guide' bugzilla
7 > > component [4] and/or GitHub mirror [5].
8 >
9 > Please, no github for official policies. We should have a permanent
10 > paper trail for this kind of things, which isn't guaranteed if the
11 > discussion would happen entirely on github.
12 >
13 > Besides, by the Social Contract we cannot rely on a non-free service
14 > for anything official.
15
16 The official sources aren't in github. A bugzilla component is
17 available, so if github goes away there is no problem and we aren't
18 relying on it.
19
20 It looks like there is the optional ability to do work on github, just
21 as people can optionally talk about anything, anywhere.
22
23 If I have a chat with another package maintainer at a bar, and they
24 modify their ebuild and push that to the Gentoo repo on infra, and no
25 bug is ever opened, that is 100% within our current policy. I don't
26 see how having that discussion on github instead of at the bar changes
27 things.
28
29 They're just offering an alternative place to get things done.
30 Anybody who wants to could just file a bug instead.
31
32 If we want to have an additional Gentoo policy that nobody is allowed
33 to discuss a Gentoo policy outside of the lists and bugzilla that
34 would of course create issues with stuff like github, and probably
35 non-logged IRC channels and private messages as well. However, that
36 is not our current policy. Plenty of council decisions happen with
37 much of the actual discussion not being recorded anywhere. I'm not
38 sure you could reasonably operate in any other way, as people do need
39 the ability to talk things out without having to posture.
40
41 I feel like this discussion has already happened in the past though...
42
43 --
44 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New QA Policy Guide Kent Fredric <kentnl@g.o>