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On 2010.04.10 15:00, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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> On Saturday 10 April 2010 16:53:48 Petteri Räty wrote: |
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> > As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take |
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> > action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer |
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> to |
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> act |
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> > as a project manager/owner for people willing to donate their time |
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> to |
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> > whatever I see worthy for Gentoo as whole like the web page |
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> redesign. |
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> > Basically you tell me how many hours you have and I'll give you |
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> stuff to |
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> > work on. It might not be glorious at times like cleaning up a piece |
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> of |
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> > documentation but why not spend an hour a week on something that |
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> > benefits the project? If people are interested, I'll work out the |
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> details. |
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> > |
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> > Regards, |
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> > Petteri |
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> That's not a good reaction from your side. Independent projects can |
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> handle the |
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> incoming manpower themselves. |
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> |
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[snip] |
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> -- |
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> Markos Chandras (hwoarang) |
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> Gentoo Linux Developer |
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> Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org |
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> |
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There are two valuable non conflicting ideas here. The second one is |
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more obvious, so I'll address that first an show how it fits with the |
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other. |
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"Independent projects" Gentoo is an assemblage of independent projects |
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all pretty much doing their own thing ... the council exists to |
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"handle global issues" [glep39] |
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This implies that the council works on things brought to its |
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attention, further its purpose is not to 'lead' (whatever that might |
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mean), rather its the glue that holds the independent projects |
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together when they can't resolve things for themselves. |
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The problem with this structure is that the independent projects have |
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gaps/overlaps between them. Overlaps normally indicate wasted effort, |
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gaps indicate something missing that does not fit into the existing |
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projects (at least, as far as the projects are concerned). The result |
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is that the gaps are not addressed. |
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Petteri, writes "I offer to take action". That's an offer from an |
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individual Gentoo developer, not on behalf of the council. It doesn't |
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matter how Petteri came to form his view that a lot of small tasks can |
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make Gentoo better for being organised. It need not encroach on the |
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independent projects at all. |
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Gentoo has got to the social complexity now that it needs some middle |
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management. The council is not permitted to provide that and Petteri |
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has offered to try. |
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Its really no different to putting up a project page and starting a new |
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project. |
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This could be a new way to get non-devs involved too. Give them a small |
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well defined package of work to contribute ... |
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I see it in a positive light but I don't think I can offer any time at |
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the moment. |
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Regards, |
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Roy Bamford |
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(Neddyseagoon) a member of |
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gentoo-ops |
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forum-mods |
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trustees |