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From: Thomas Schweikle <Thomas.Schweikle@×××××××.de>
To: brad@g.o
Cc: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 1.4.1 and GRP
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:13:50
1 > On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 15:06, Jon Portnoy wrote:
2 [...]
3 > Binary distribution? Heck no
4 >
5 > I'm not comfortable with people who want to stick with
6 > their roots - I've seen too many examples of things not
7 > working out with that sort of mentality.
9 What do you mean with "... stick with their roots". There are lots of
10 scenarios I can think of in less than a minute your better off, with
11 binaries.
13 I'd really prefer binaries for a lot of installations (just think you'll
14 have to install a new package on about 2000 systems --- shall they all
15 compile the package? What about if I have to make sure these are up and
16 running again in, say 2 hours? Would you start a compile of KDE in this
17 case (my PII/400/512MB needed 14h to compile all KDE stuff needed)?
18 Binaries are installed in less than 30 minutes!
20 And what about this old laptop: 586/133/40MB? It is running fine with
21 Gentoo, but compiling on this machine would take months (to be exact:
22 _four_ months for base+X11+Mozilla+KDE). Your really better of in such
23 cases compiling on some other, faster machine, transferring only binaries.
25 In my opinion this "... we are a source distribution -- we do not deliver
26 binaries" is the false way doing things. We really _need_ both: sources
27 and binaries. And I would really like to see Gentoo move a bit toward
28 distributing binaries as well. Maybe RPM, maybe DEB. Portage should make
29 it possible. Just have a look at FreeBSD: it is mainly a source
30 distribution, but you can have binary packages for everything in the ports
31 tree if you want.
33 It would really be nice if I could find all compiled packages as binary in
34 some directory after compilation of the base distribution finished. Superb
35 if I could define some flag somewhere telling Gentoo generating "RPM",
36 "DEB", or "pkg" binary packages.
38 This way I get all the best of both worlds: binaries for those not having
39 the time to compile all and everything from scratch, sources for those,
40 who like to have an amazingly actual, up to date, and optimized system.
42 --
43 Thomas
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 1.4.1 and GRP donnie berkholz <spyderous@g.o>