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> On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 15:06, Jon Portnoy wrote: |
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> Binary distribution? Heck no |
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> I'm not comfortable with people who want to stick with |
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> their roots - I've seen too many examples of things not |
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> working out with that sort of mentality. |
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What do you mean with "... stick with their roots". There are lots of |
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scenarios I can think of in less than a minute your better off, with |
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binaries. |
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I'd really prefer binaries for a lot of installations (just think you'll |
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have to install a new package on about 2000 systems --- shall they all |
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compile the package? What about if I have to make sure these are up and |
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running again in, say 2 hours? Would you start a compile of KDE in this |
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case (my PII/400/512MB needed 14h to compile all KDE stuff needed)? |
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Binaries are installed in less than 30 minutes! |
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And what about this old laptop: 586/133/40MB? It is running fine with |
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Gentoo, but compiling on this machine would take months (to be exact: |
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_four_ months for base+X11+Mozilla+KDE). Your really better of in such |
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cases compiling on some other, faster machine, transferring only binaries. |
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In my opinion this "... we are a source distribution -- we do not deliver |
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binaries" is the false way doing things. We really _need_ both: sources |
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and binaries. And I would really like to see Gentoo move a bit toward |
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distributing binaries as well. Maybe RPM, maybe DEB. Portage should make |
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it possible. Just have a look at FreeBSD: it is mainly a source |
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distribution, but you can have binary packages for everything in the ports |
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tree if you want. |
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It would really be nice if I could find all compiled packages as binary in |
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some directory after compilation of the base distribution finished. Superb |
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if I could define some flag somewhere telling Gentoo generating "RPM", |
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"DEB", or "pkg" binary packages. |
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This way I get all the best of both worlds: binaries for those not having |
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the time to compile all and everything from scratch, sources for those, |
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who like to have an amazingly actual, up to date, and optimized system. |
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Thomas |
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