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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:06:56
Message-Id: 1365934008.6940.12.camel@localhost
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing? by Ryan Hill
1 El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 04:08 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió:
2 > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:23:00 +0200
3 > "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013, 10:24:18 schrieb Ryan Hill:
6 > > >
7 > > > Personally I think that the entire idea of only displaying messages on the
8 > > > first install is completely asinine. What exactly is the benefit? Were
9 > > > users complaining that we were being too helpful and they'd like us to
10 > > > hide important messages in random places?
11 > >
12 > > No. They are just not reading it when the only new and relevant message is
13 > > drowned in repetitive spam.
14 >
15 > So the solution is to not display them at all? New messages won't be printed
16 > unless the maintainer uses REPLACING_VERSIONS, in which case you get exactly
17 > the same behaviour as now, ie. "drowned in repetitive spam". All this does is
18 > reduce the chance of the user ever seeing important information. If they
19 > happen to miss it the first time they're SOL. Are cosmetics really a bigger
20 > concern than keeping users informed?
21 >
22 >
23
24 The messages are shown the first time by elog *and* saved
25 in /usr/share/doc/*/README.gentoo, adding the advantage of users having
26 that docs always present without needing to re-emerge the package or
27 manually read ebuilds

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