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From: Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o, Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: taking a break from arches stabilization
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:26:47
Message-Id: 43a295c3-d156-24bf-b679-39d0ac19181c@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: taking a break from arches stabilization by Michael Palimaka
1 On 07/11/2017 04:21 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
2 > On 07/12/2017 12:15 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
3 >> On 07/11/2017 04:13 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
4 >>> On 07/11/2017 03:47 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
5 >>>> The main risk of breakage of a package moving from testing to
6 >>>> stable is always at build time anyway.
7 >>>
8 >>> citation needed
9 >>>
10 >>
11 >> Anecdotal evidence against, currently gnupg 2.1.21 scdaemon bug will
12 >> happily sign a third party public keyblock's UID using signature subkey
13 >> on smartcard, which results in useless signature that doesn't have any
14 >> effect, but the application builds fine.
15 >>
16 >> This means gnupg 2.1.21 is not a candidate for stabilization, but it
17 >> certainly builds fine.
18 >>
19 >
20 > Stop trolling - you know perfectly well that this sort of issue would
21 > never ever be caught during arch testing. Nor should it be - it's called
22 > *arch* testing for a reason.
23
24 That presumes that the maintainer is the one calling for the
25 stabilization, and it is not an automated procedure simply due to 30
26 days in ~arch. In this particular case, look for the number of bug
27 reports filed in Gentoo for the issue.
28
29 But the main risk is certainly not built testing, it is breaking
30 operational live stable systems. Nowhere was it claimed that the arch
31 testers are responsible for it, but it certainly doesn't coincide, at
32 any point, with "The main risk of breakage of a package moving from
33 testing to stable is always at build time anyway."
34
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36 Kristian Fiskerstrand
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: taking a break from arches stabilization Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o>
[gentoo-dev] Re: taking a break from arches stabilization Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o>