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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:05:49
Message-Id: 4F00680E.6050202@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr by Rich Freeman
1 Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> This is my issue as well. I tried to make a init* to deal with this and
4 >> have yet to get one to work, not one single working boot up. I have tried
5 >> different howtos and not one of them produced anything that works. I have
6 >> not found a dracut howto that makes any sense either. Sorry but genkernel
7 >> left a bad taste in my mouth ages ago.
8 > While I think that the direction we're moving in (/usr on root or use
9 > an initramfs) is inevitable, I do agree that it needs some
10 > improvement.
11 >
12 > I've gotten Dracut to work fine in VMs (even with fairly complex
13 > setups), but every time I try it on my server it doesn't set up the
14 > raid for some reason, and drops me to a dash shell. If I just run
15 > mdadm_auto at that point it takes about 15 seconds to find and setup
16 > my raid, and just typing exit boots the system just fine. I keep it
17 > as an option in grub so that whenever my raid device numbers get mixed
18 > up (seems to happen every other month for no apparent reason) I can
19 > boot the system, since dracut does use the mdadm.conf and UUIDs to put
20 > everything in the right place and find the right root (something you
21 > can't do without an initramfs). One of these days I'll figure out how
22 > to hack an mdadm_auto into the script as a last-ditch measure and then
23 > I'll just have to deal with a one-minute delay.
24 >
25 > For being the wave of the future it seems like the only documentation
26 > Dracut has is a single page website with a few paragraphs of info.
27 >
28 > I think the bottom line is that the future may look inevitable, but it
29 > isn't actually here yet. I advocate being ready for the future, but
30 > let's try not to force its arrival before everything is mature (though
31 > having it in portage as an option is completely in the spirit of
32 > Gentoo).
33 >
34 > Rich
35 >
36 >
37
38
39 I installed dracut and it did something, although I'm not sure what
40 yet. I googled until I think google should be tired of me to find docs
41 to help. Getting it to run was on one page, then figuring out some
42 options was on yet another page, then grub was on yet another. I don't
43 know yet if some of these are outdated or anything so I don't know if it
44 is going to work or just blow up something. Please, don't ask me what it
45 did. I said I did it, I didn't say I understand it. If it is broken or
46 breaks in the future, I'm screwed. (Sort of starting to wonder why I
47 left Mandriva now. I could have swore I wanted to be rid of init* stuff
48 and make my on freakin kernels. )
49
50 I might also add for those considering dracut being the official way, it
51 is keyworded at this point. I would think someone needs to get this
52 stable or whatever needs doing before telling folks to use this. It may
53 work fine but if that is the case, then it needs to be unkeyworded.
54 Spell check doesn't like our terms here.
55
56 I think the future is actually taking several steps backward. That
57 point has been discussed to death tho.
58
59 I hope Sven has his thinking hat on. Maybe I can help some with the
60 docs. If it works for me, it should work for most. lol
61
62 Dale
63
64 :-) :-)
65
66 --
67 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
68
69 Miss the compile output? Hint:
70 EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"