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From: 320095285153-0001@t-online.de (Achim Gottinger)
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tom
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:29:11
Message-Id: 3A704BE5.93421C45@gottinger.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tom by Bill Anderson
1 Bill Anderson wrote:
2
3 > Achim Gottinger wrote:
4 >
5 > > Thomas Flavel wrote:
6 > >
7 > >
8 > >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:29:01PM -0600, Bryce Porter wrote:
9 > >>
10 > >>> Tom:
11 > >>> "I'm just thinking along the lines of a minimum binary system where
12 > >>> absolutley needed, and compiling specifically everywhere else? I realise this would
13 > >>> be slow to install on slower systems, but, since we're all power users... ;)
14 > >>>
15 > >>> Seriously though, I do think this would be a nice feature, unless there's
16 > >>> some practicality reason I'm missing."
17 > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------
18 > >>>
19 > >>> I think this is a great idea. I heard of a GNU/Linux distrobution that
20 > >>> when installed compiled all selected packages from source, making it the
21 > >>> most optimized you could get for your specific machine. I think it was
22 > >>> called Rock Linux or something.
23 > >>
24 > >> Not heard of it, but a quick search on google reveals the predicatable url:
25 > >> http://www.rocklinux.org, #rocklinux on irc.openprojects.net.
26 > >>
27 > >> Looks to be faily mature (at least they're past 1.0 ;), supports ppc and alpha
28 > >> as well as x86.
29 > >
30 > >
31 > > Please send me you ppc, alpha, i64, mips, sparc machines and I will do the ports. :-)
32 > >
33 >
34 > How about SSH access to an Alpha? Good enough? ;^)=
35
36 Is that an offer? Yes please.
37
38 >
39 >
40 > >
41 > >> From what I can see it has a binary cd version, with the option
42 > >> to compile from source (the same thing I was talking about, if I understand them
43 > >> correctly). It describes it's package management as closer to FreeBSD than debian.
44 > >> It looks to be quite similar to gentoo to me, although not quite as advanced.
45 > >
46 > >
47 > > I took a look at the site and think that we need something similar to cfengine
48 > > sometimes.
49 > >
50 > > I thougth about a minimum build system too, while I had to go back to i486 from i686.
51 > > There is another project linux-from-scratch (www.lfs.org i think) that creates a
52 > > statically linked set
53 > > of packages required for build first and then builds the rest with that bin's. Such a
54 > > set would require
55 > > about 50MB and it is not difficult to make a few modified packages for that.
56 > > This build-system could be placed on a gentoo-source cd together with a snapshot of the
57 > > port-tree.
58 > > Then you whould be able to boot with the source-cd and install a build.tbz2 instead of a
59 > > sys.tbz2.
60 > > Then you can chroot to that system and build everything from sources.
61 > > Additionally this offers the possibility to build gentoo from within another
62 > > linux-distro.
63 > >
64 > > How do you guys think about that?
65 >
66 > Sounds rather cool to me.
67
68 I have made all the required packages for sys-build and currently testing building the
69 sys-stuff on it.
70 I can upload a build.tbz2 tomorrow i think.
71
72 >
73 >
74 > Bill
75 >
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