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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: upgrading to postfix-2.9
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:26:57
Message-Id: pan.2012.07.17.12.24.41@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: upgrading to postfix-2.9 by Nathan Zachary
1 Nathan Zachary posted on Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:29:52 -0400 as excerpted:
2
3 > On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:21:07 +0300 Eray Aslan <eras@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 >> On 07/17/2012 02:00 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
6 >> > It may be a small issue, but since the potential pain is quite large,
7 >>
8 >> Yes, that's the idea.
9 >>
10 > Considering Postfix is an MTA that is commonly used in production
11 > environments, it is likely better to provide users with ample warning
12 > than to risk the application failing and troubleshooting thereafter.
13
14 I'd agree (tho I don't use postfix).
15
16 Additionally, IIRC during a recent news item discussion someone said they
17 believe if anything, we're underusing the news facilities. IDR seeing
18 major disagreement, and I too tend to agree. They're one-shot unless an
19 admin deliberately goes back to read them over and higher visibility than
20 ewarns.
21
22 Ewarns often appears every update for years, over sometimes a dozen
23 updates, so even those like me that try to read them sometimes miss
24 something new in the "noise" of messages we've seen over and over and
25 over and over and over.
26
27 Of course, the visibility filtering for news items was deliberately
28 designed to help avoid that, and as long as news items /remain/ single-
29 shot, not getting abused to appear over and over (or we'd need yet
30 another layer to stand out from that noise), certainly, from current
31 levels I really do think we could easily double or more the frequency,
32 without being too annoying/abusive.
33
34 So yeah, this one might be a relatively small thing, but with this sort
35 of package a single person missing a single warning can mean a service
36 outage for dozens or hundreds, so I think it's worth it. And since only
37 postfix users who haven't upgraded yet will see it, and then only once,
38 yes, do it.
39
40 --
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42 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
43 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman