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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:27:40
Message-Id: 2U2AKC6Q.NMEDFA7D.M7TMTLG7@P2HFUSGA.MBGZMCD3.J5NCCQDU
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev by William Hubbs
1 On 2020.08.10 16:22, William Hubbs wrote:
2 > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:00:44AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote:
3 > > On 8/8/2020 14:51, William Hubbs wrote:
4 > > > All,
5 > > >
6 > > > I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider
7 > on new
8 > > > systems from eudev to udev.
9 > > >
10 > > > This is not a lastrites, and it will not affect current systems
11 > since
12 > > > they have to migrate manually. Also, this change can be overridden
13 > at
14 > > > the profile level if some profile needs eudev (the last time I
15 > checked,
16 > > > this applies to non-glibc configurations).
17 > > >
18 > > > What do people think?
19 > > >
20 > > > Thanks,
21 > > >
22 > > > William
23 > >
24 > > Is eudev broken in some way? If so, has a bug been filed? If not,
25 > why not?
26 > >
27 > > If eudev is not broken, then why your proposed fix?
28 >
29 > bitrot and bus factor.
30 >
31 > > It works fine for new installs, having just done one myself. Seems
32 > like we
33 > > aught to keep it that way. I count six open bugs against eudev
34 > right now,
35 > > and none of them look to be critical, so I vote "no" on your
36 > proposal unless
37 > > there is some verifiable reason why eudev is no longer suitable to
38 > be the
39 > > default udev provider.
40 >
41 [snip]
42 > ...because of fear of
43 > what
44 > the udev devs might do. That fear never came true.
45 >
46 [snip]
47 >
48 > William
49 >
50
51 William,
52
53 Never is a very long time.
54 That promise has not been made good ... yet.
55
56 --
57 Regards,
58
59 Roy Bamford
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