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On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 07:56:41PM +0200, Micha?? Górny wrote |
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> waltdnes@××××××××.org wrote: |
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> > I see this as at least a redundancy, if not a problem. First, let's |
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> > look at the general case. An optional "UI" (User Interface) is also |
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> > selected... |
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> > * via the "tools" useflag 78 times in use.local.desc |
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> > * via the "ncurses" useflag 10 times in use.local.desc. |
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> > * for a lot of ebuilds via the "ncurses" useflag in use.desc (So why |
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> > does "ncurses" show up in use.local.desc ???) |
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> > There is no need for an additional "TUI" (Text User Interface) use flag |
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> > for these cases. "tools" and/or "ncurses" tells you enough. Similarly, |
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> > "GUI" is grab-bag of gtk2/gtk3/qt4/qt5/X/Wayland/whatever. The only |
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> > thing they have in common is a hard-coded dependancy on graphics libs. |
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> > "GUI" is an implicit dependancy of gtk2/gtk3/qt4/qt5/X/Wayland/whatever. |
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> > Using any of them tells you enough. What do we accomplish by requiring |
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> > one more USE flag? This will also make dependancy resolution of ebuilds |
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> > more complex, i.e. slower. Why? |
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> Simple regular users don't want to be concerned with choice of toolkit |
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> for every single package, as long as a GUI is provided. |
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Then put one of X/xorg/wayland/mir/qt4/qt5/gtk2/gtk3/fltk into USE in |
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make.conf. This will *FORCE* a gui where applicable. |
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> Furthermore, this matches the recommended USE flag design where the |
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> more important flags are provided as feature flags, while specific |
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> dependency choice flags are minor. |
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This is going to require *THREE* levels of flags, with the first one |
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being totally unnecessary... |
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Level 1) GUI |
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Level 2) X or xorg or Wayland or Mir |
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Level 3) qt4 or qt5 or gtk2 or gtk3 or fltk |
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Let me re-phrase my question... is there *ANY* set of circumstances |
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under which any of X/xorg/wayland/mir/qt4/qt5/gtk2/gtk3/fltk USE flag |
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can be set for a package *WITHOUT* requiring a gui? I can see any of X |
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or xorg or Wayland or Mir being a requirement for any of |
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qt4/qt5/gtk2/gtk3/fltk. But any of the Level 2 or Level 3 flags *FORCES* |
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a GUI of one sort or another. |
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I repeat, requiring a "GUI" use flag for GUI apps makes as much sense |
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as requiring a "TUI" flag for commandline apps. I hope I'm not giving |
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people ideas the wrong way. No I don't want a "TUI" flag either. |
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Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> |
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I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications |
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