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On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 16:12:26 -0500 |
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"A. Wilcox" <awilfox@×××××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> On 28/07/17 15:10, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: |
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> > Gentoo is as stable as YOU make it!!!! |
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> And by "YOU", that would be the people writing ebuilds and committing |
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> them without test suites or integration testing of any kind. |
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I am not one of those. I am an outsider. A user, outside ebuilder :) |
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Having packaged hundreds of Java packages. I do not bother with the |
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tests. They can take just as long if not longer to get running than the |
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package itself. I find best testing is real world usage. |
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>The devs |
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> who yell and complain all day about "standards" and "not breaking the |
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> tree" then go and break the tree and violate any standard ever set. |
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In most any project, breaking the tree/master is frowned on, but |
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happens. Long as its speedily fixed, all is well. |
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> This attitude of "the user is to blame" is the reason I moved Adélie's |
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> upstream elsewhere. |
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I did not mean to imply the user was to blame per se. If you buy a car, |
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do not maintain it, and it falls apart. Is it the manufacturers fault? |
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Gentoo is not your average "car" or distro. It requires considerable |
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more work. The result can be better and save considerable time. Yes I |
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know I just contradicted myself. |
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When I was racing, they said |
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"A fast lap around the track is a slow lap in the cockpit". |
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The time saving in Gentoo in part is the rolling aspect, and gained |
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over long periods of time. Upfront you spend considerable time. |
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The more time spent, the smoother and faster things go. |
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In part why I tell many not to run it. They are not going to put in |
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the time upfront to ensure it works for them in the long run. If the |
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are not going to put in the time. They likely should not own high end |
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car, that require abnormal maintenance in ways. |
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> I am still running Gentoo on a few production |
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> servers, but this whole thread and /especially/ this message has made |
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> me realise I'm probably better off with Fedora until Adélie is ready. |
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For many other distros maybe better suited. There are quite many. |
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FYI Enlightenment.org runs everything on Gentoo. They have had |
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discussions of moving away etc. I stay out of it. |
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What works for one is not the best for other. Gentoo is not the best |
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distro for everyone. It is really up to each to decide. Gentoo to me is |
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a Development distro. Which should not be seen the same as many others. |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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