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From: Doug Goldstein <cardoe@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:08:16
Message-Id: 462E6224.6030302@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86 by Danny van Dyk
1 Danny van Dyk wrote:
2 > Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Doug Goldstein:
3 >
4 >> Danny van Dyk wrote:
5 >>
6 >>> Hi all,
7 >>>
8 >>> [CC'ing council@g.o as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th,
9 >>> 2007]
10 >>>
11 >>> A subset of council members decided today that multiple version
12 >>> suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice. This
13 >>> decission can be appealed at the next Council meeting. If there is
14 >>> sufficient public demand, an earlier meeting can be held.
15 >>>
16 >>> This decission has been made to prevent sufficient precedence for
17 >>> unilateral changes to the tree structure. So far the following
18 >>> package versions are considered illegal:
19 >>>
20 >>> media-viode/mplayer-1.0_rc2_pre20070321-r4
21 >>> media-video/transcode-1.0.3_rc2_p20070310-r1
22 >>>
23 >>> An illegal version specification of media-sound/alsa-driver has
24 >>> already been removed from the tree.
25 >>>
26 >>> I would like to ask the affected package maintainers to move these
27 >>> versions to sane version specifications as soon as possible. Thanks
28 >>> in advance for this.
29 >>>
30 >>> Danny
31 >>>
32 >> So apparently as little as 1 council member can make a decision and
33 >> it be binding unless appealed to the entire council at the next
34 >> meeting.
35 >>
36 >
37 > No, that's not correct. 1 council member can't do that. During the
38 > council meeting of March 8th 2007 the Council decided that at least 2
39 > members are necessary to act for the whole Council.
40 >
41 > FYI this decission has been made by 3 Council members, which have been
42 > Robin, Bryan and which has been initiated by myself. Further, QA
43 > indicated approval prior to this council decission.
44 >
45 >
46 >> Danny,
47 >>
48 >> This wouldn't have to be because you have a vested interest in
49 >> paludis and paludis does not support this syntax and there happens to
50 >> be no reasonable way to support that?
51 >>
52 >
53 > Doug,
54 >
55 > a) Paludis could support arbitrary combinations of multiple version
56 > suffixes the same way as Portage currently support this. The Paludis
57 > developers chose not to, because
58 >
59 > b) A very large number of possible suffix combinations aren't sensible.
60 > Instead of implicitly allowing every possible combination, one should
61 > explicitly allow the sensible subset and explicitly disallow the rest.
62 >
63 > c) I try very hard to seperate my interest and work on Gentoo and the
64 > Council and my interest and work on Paludis.
65 >
66 > Personally, I would appreciate if you got back to me before you make
67 > claims as the ones i just responded to. Both claims are wrong: One
68 > evidently so (you can ask kloeri and robbat2), for the other you have
69 > to trust either me or ask the other Paludis devs.
70 >
71 > Danny
72 >
73 QA being spb, who is a noted paludis developer....
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