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From: Brian Dolbec <dolsen@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v3 10/12] glep-0063: Make 2-yearly expiration term mandatory
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 07:30:29
Message-Id: 20180706003017.0055a1ad@professor-x
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v3 10/12] glep-0063: Make 2-yearly expiration term mandatory by "Michał Górny"
1 On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:51:12 +0200
2 Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > W dniu pią, 06.07.2018 o godzinie 06∶28 +0000, użytkownik Robin H.
5 > Johnson napisał:
6 > > On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 08:18:32AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
7 > > > > option a)
8 > > > > 2 years + N:
9 > > > > 2 weeks <= N <= 3 months.
10 > > > >
11 > > > > option b)
12 > > > > Change the wording to be 'at most 2 years' instead of 'exactly
13 > > > > 2 years'.
14 > > >
15 > > > That *is* the wording.
16 > >
17 > > I apologize. I took ulm's post as canonical and didn't confirm in
18 > > the original GLEP text.
19 > >
20 > > Further change to follow in response to the original text.
21 > >
22 > > > > Separately:
23 > > > > Is two weeks enough time for a new key distribution to users?
24 > > >
25 > > > I originally wanted to specify one month but k_f insisted on
26 > > > something shorter. 2 weeks were the compromise we agreed on.
27 > > > That said, I'd say weekly 'gpg --refresh' is what we should
28 > > > recommend as the bare minimum.
29 > > >
30 > > > That said, the point of two weeks is mostly to give us time to
31 > > > remind developers that their key is expiring and to give them
32 > > > time to actually read their mail and do it before it actually
33 > > > expires.
34 > >
35 > > Please let's start reminding them BEFORE that. I have seen a lot of
36 > > .away files over the last decade, and taking a 2-week offline
37 > > vacation does happen.
38 >
39 > The problem is, Gentoo developers are really hostile people. If you
40 > remind them *before* the term, they are not very nice because how does
41 > someone dare remind very important developer who was planning to do it
42 > week before expiration, and now he needed to waste his precious time
43 > reading your mail.
44 >
45
46 I never experienced a single developer show or say anything like you
47 are suggesting. Most, thanked me for the reminder whether it was in
48 IRC or email. And since I always cc'd the gkeys alias (most needed
49 changes to meet the spec too), I'm sure Kristian will confirm this.
50
51 --
52 Brian Dolbec <dolsen>