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Tom Wijsman posted on Wed, 04 Jun 2014 02:24:31 +0200 as excerpted: |
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> On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:55:50 +0800 Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> |
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> wrote: |
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>> The only step missing is: |
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>> Mask the new version on all non-systemd profiles so that portage |
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>> doesn't try to install it |
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>> (I wonder why systemd and the related stuff isn't masked on non-systemd |
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>> profiles anyway ...) |
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> There is no such thing as a non-systemd profile; a sub directory is a |
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> specialization, that doesn't mean that it parents suddenly become the |
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> opposite of that. No, the parents are just generalizations that aren't |
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> as specific as the sub directory. |
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> Doing what you've suggested everywhere but in gnome/systemd and |
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> kde/systemd is a recipe to upset everyone whom runs systemd on another |
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> desktop environment than GNOME or KDE; so, that's not a way forward. |
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+1 |
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Currently I'm default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib. |
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I certainly don't want systemd masked as I switched to it a few months |
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ago, but there's no no-multilib systemd profile for me to switch to. Not |
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that I actually need one unless someone goes mad and starts masking |
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packages without a good reason (like it doesn't work on that arch!) in |
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general purpose profiles. |
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Of course it wouldn't be a big deal for me anyway; given that I'm |
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advanced enough to have no @system at all as I've negated the whole thing |
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in /etc/portage/profile/packages, I'm sure I could unmask systemd if I |
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needed to. But for other no-multilib systemd users, and for others using |
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similar profiles, masking systemd in a general purpose profile is NOT the |
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way to go. |
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The alternatives are a combinatorial profile explosion (impractical), |
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mix-ins, as TomWij suggests (medium-term solution, more likely long-term |
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given gentoo politics, but we need short-term here), or status-quo, not |
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masking packages that work just fine in general-purpose profiles. |
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Which basically means news items noting the manual action necessary for |
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things like this, as is now being done. =:^) |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |
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