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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 23:10:28
Message-Id: pan.2012.06.23.23.09.18@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5 by Rich Freeman
1 Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 23 Jun 2012 07:12:29 -0400 as excerpted:
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3 > You can't fix it by beating people up.
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5 Volunteers do it on their own terms... or don't do it. The outliers can
6 be moderated to some degree and thankfully the list isn't what it once
7 was, but get too strict and people simply find other things to do. Of
8 course there's a line where letting them find something else to do is
9 best, and some have crossed it, but...
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11 > 1. While perhaps a different leader might give people a warmer feeling
12 > about it, I think many of these issues are just inherent to the nature
13 > of the problem - PM features don't write themselves. Others might
14 > disagree, and that is fine.
15 >
16 > 2. I don't see anybody else stepping up.
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18 Good points. (Whole post actually, but snipped for brevity.) To some
19 extent, the job of coordinating PMS is going to be a (nearly) thankless
20 task, and it does take a specific kind of person to keep at it. Not
21 everybody's cut out for it. You're right, others /aren't/ stepping up
22 for it and I can't blame them. Thanks for pointing out what we likely
23 all knew if we thought about it, but many (me included) sometimes forget.
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26 Back to my original point, tho. Seeing people working on other PMs make
27 the point as well, helps, and I hope to see both a bit more of that and
28 more reminders of it in other subthreads/replies, where appropriate. I
29 know that helps me keep a bit better perspective. =:^)
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32 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
33 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
34 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman