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21.08.2013 14:36, Tom Wijsman пишет: |
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> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:54:51 +0400 |
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> Sergey Popov <pinkbyte@g.o> wrote: |
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>> 21.08.2013 13:13, Tom Wijsman пишет: |
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>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:32:35 +0400 |
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>>> Sergey Popov <pinkbyte@g.o> wrote: |
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>>>> 21.08.2013 12:13, Tom Wijsman пишет: |
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>>>>> Recruiting shows to be a hard task; so, the suggestions I am doing |
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>>>>> are assuming that that doesn't work out. In which case, I wonder |
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>>>>> what "by some other ways" you would think of... |
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>>>> Dropping some keywords to unstable on minor arches. |
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>>> If we grow (like you said below), then doing less seems like a |
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>>> decision that we shouldn't take; it is rather about "doing it |
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>>> different" to use our resources in a better way. Crowd sourcing |
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>>> users is an option here... |
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>> What crowd sourcing do you talking about? We have Arch Tester for |
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>> that. Do you see vast interest in this initiative? I think not(thus, |
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>> for major arches we have some amount of testers, some of them are |
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>> became developers lately). |
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> Yes, it is a large share of users that run ~, they "want to test". |
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But it seems that they do not want to become Arch testers and bring |
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things to stable, do not you think? |
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>> And if you want to move stabilization checks to unqualified users, |
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>> then it is way to nowhere. |
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> No, because there would be much more users giving feedback. |
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Feedback is good. But if it simple "works for me" without tests on |
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CFLAGS/LDFLAGS respect regression, cross-compile breakage regression or |
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any other regressions, than it is pointless. I would suggest increase |
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number of arch testers... Or, i repeat myself(in infinite time), |
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"recruit more people" |
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>>> So, recruiting in the terms of "finding recruits" appears to be |
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>>> hard. |
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>> But, at my POV, it is only one way that we can improve current |
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>> situation. |
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> Sorry, I do not understand (language barrier), do you mean that 1) that |
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> should be the way to improve it or do you mean that 2) this is just one |
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> approach and that we should look at different ones? |
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Yeah, my grammar sucks, i know. So, let's summarize what i mean. To deal |
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with our current problems with arches we have only two ways: |
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1) drop some arches to unstable -> lower the burden to arch teams; |
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2) recruit more arch testers/arch team members; |
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Best regards, Sergey Popov |
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