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From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o>
To: Gentoo Dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Cc: PR team <pr@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] 2021-11-23-mariadb-database-restore-maybe-required: add item
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:20:23
Message-Id: CAJ0EP42Ar9+Rvbaj5AdH0WQvaNfGRzQtdJKfq=tBzSX=iX9G=g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] 2021-11-23-mariadb-database-restore-maybe-required: add item by Thomas Deutschmann
1 On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:59 AM Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o> wrote:
2 >
3 > Hi,
4 >
5 > On 2021-11-25 04:49, Mike Gilbert wrote:
6 > > On 2021-11-21, keywords for dev-db/mariadb-10.6 were removed to
7 > > address a file collision with dev-db/mariadb-connector-c. This
8 > > unintentionally triggered a version downgrade for users who had
9 > > successfully upgraded to dev-db/mariadb-10.6 already.
10 >
11 > Works for me. However, I would write dev-db/mariadb:10.6. Is that
12 > acceptable for you?
13
14 Sure.
15
16 > > I don't like the phrase "forcefully downgraded" here. This implies
17 > > that something happened without the user's consent. emerge would have
18 > > informed them of the downgrade before it happened. I would suggest
19 > > removing the word "forcefully" from these paragraphs.
20 >
21 > If you do a normal world upgrade, this is the default portage behavior,
22 > not? I.e. package manager will downgrade if you don't stop. And
23 > especially on servers, people tend to use cronjobs/scripts to do that...
24
25 Something happening by default is not the same as forcing it to happen.
26
27 Using a cron job or other blind automation to do package upgrades on
28 any production system is a bad idea. We certainly do not recommend
29 that to people, nor force them to do it.
30
31 > And forcefully here refers to the undesirable result (at least that was
32 > my intention). Something the user doesn't want.
33
34 That's really not what "forcefully" means. It would be fine to use
35 "unintentional" or "unwanted" in its place.

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