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Am Donnerstag, 5. April 2007 20:20 schrieb Mike Doty: |
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> Torsten Veller wrote: |
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> > * Mike Doty <kingtaco@g.o>: |
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> >> apparent decline of QA in our packages. |
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> > Why do you want this to be a council topic if it wasn't even a |
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> > topic here or on gentoo-qa@ ? |
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> Because our QA sucks and noone is doing a damn thing about it. |
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I disagree. The QA team is doing a lot of work. |
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* Mr_Bones still runs QA checks on the whole tree daily and people are |
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still scared if he pops up and pastes his repoman/pquery output. |
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* Tove still looks out for anything obviously wrong, and he's quite good |
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at constantly buggering people about it. |
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* Other people including myself run different (selected) kinds of QA |
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checks on a case by case basis and usually fix the affected parts of |
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the tree, and sometimes nobody but the maintainers notice that. |
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* You don't need to be a member of the "QA project/team" to do QA. I say |
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this here, but i think that should be self-evident. |
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* Antarus and spb are preparing to take actions against at least one |
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persistent QA offender, and devrel told them how to do it properly. |
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* QA team, one of its subprojects to be precise, has recently published |
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the draft for Package Manager Specifications. |
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* The work of our QA team is mostly under the hood (and i don't mean |
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sekrit by that!), and that's how it should be done imho. Naturally |
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this can mean that people think they aren't working at all if they |
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don't see flamewars and/or big announcements/blog entries on how they |
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fixed QA problem X. I prefer a silent QA team personally. |
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* There is at least one outstanding QA issue that i know of which is |
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related to Portage and can't be fixed w/o slot deps properly. |
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Read: KDE's problems with ranged deps and the way it currently |
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breaks the vdb's RDEPEND entries, especially regarding qt and kdelibs. |
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* There is a _lot_ of minor QA stuff on bugs.g.o, and everybody (not |
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only QA team members) are invited to work on it. The only prerequisite |
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for helping with it is: "Know what you do. If you don't, learn it." |
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* QA _starts_ by such minor things as whitespace problems or proper |
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ChangeLog entries, so there is enough work for everybody out there to |
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help with! |
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If anybody is interested, i can provide you (this is all gentoo ebuild |
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devs*) either with lists of QA problems in the tree to fix, or with |
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tools that enable you to search for one particular (kind of) QA |
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violation in the whole tree, whatever your prefer. |
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Danny |
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*I'm only adressing gentoo devs here as patches against the whole tree |
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don't make sense. The tree changes to fast for it. |
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Danny van Dyk <kugelfang@g.o> |
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Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project |
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