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From: Andrew D Kirch <trelane@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:17:28
Message-Id: 48A395A8.70201@trelane.net
1 It has become abundantly clear that distribution maintainers should have
2 as few patches as possible. Patches waste time due to duplicate work,
3 resources (portage disk space and bandwidth), and as the Debian project
4 recently found out after a major vulnerability was discovered in the
5 OpenSSH packages (see http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/6094, and
6 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/30276 among others), they can become a
7 source of great embarrassment, and liability since they are not nearly
8 so well audited as code in heavily used mainstream projects (an
9 unintentional Cathedral if you will). I therefore propose the following
10 changes:
11
12 Patches in the metadata.xml should have some sort of status tracking for
13 each patch, repoman should flag any that don't, and warn on any that
14 have not been submitted upstream unless the status is signed off on by a
15 herd leader (such as Gentoo specific patches). This would provide visual
16 feedback for users and developers with regard to a pretty important
17 metric on how successful Gentoo is at getting patches pushed back to
18 developers.
19
20 Developers who consistantly clear a large quantity of patches upstream
21 should also be recognized in the Gentoo Monthly Newsletter, and
22 otherwise as appropriate.
23 Obviously the software needs to work, and therefore we need patches, but
24 Gentoo has not done enough to date to get them pushed upstream. Lets
25 look at some cringeworthy statistics on outstanding patches. (NB these
26 are only patches in portage, and not patches which don't meet portage's
27 maximum size)
28
29 app-accessibility 48 app-admin 178
30 app-antivirus 10 app-arch 101
31 app-backup 55 app-benchmarks 20
32 app-cdr 58 app-crypt 90
33 app-dicts 28 app-doc 26
34 app-editors 90 app-emacs 51
35 app-emulation 186 app-forensics 21
36 app-i18n 77 app-laptop 23
37 app-misc 181 app-mobilephone 34
38 app-office 64 app-pda 50
39 app-portage 36 app-shells 91
40 app-text 334 app-vim 13
41 app-xemacs 4 dev-ada 1
42 dev-cpp 30 dev-db 141
43 dev-dotnet 27 dev-embedded 17
44 dev-games 27 dev-haskell 12
45 dev-java 264 dev-lang 313
46 dev-libs 391 dev-lisp 112
47 dev-ml 15 dev-perl 78
48 dev-php 6 dev-php5 11
49 dev-python 202 dev-ruby 63
50 dev-scheme 37 dev-tcltk 33
51 dev-tex 24 dev-tinyos 3
52 dev-util 328 distfiles 26
53 eclass 21 games-action 58
54 games-arcade 76 games-board 58
55 games-emulation 88 games-engines 8
56 games-fps 58 games-kids 9
57 games-misc 15 games-mud 19
58 games-puzzle 65 games-roguelike 26
59 games-rpg 15 games-server 7
60 games-simulation 14 games-sports 17
61 games-strategy 54 games-util 31
62 gnome-base 45 gnome-extra 60
63 gnustep-apps 22 gnustep-base 3
64 gnustep-libs 9 kde-base 146
65 kde-misc 52 mail-client 71
66 mail-filter 49 mail-mta 21
67 media-fonts 5 media-gfx 188
68 media-libs 494 media-plugins 273
69 media-radio 2 media-sound 411
70 media-tv 44 media-video 253
71 metadata 72 net-analyzer 213
72 net-dialup 121 net-dns 45
73 net-firewall 33 net-fs 47
74 net-ftp 76 net-im 91
75 net-irc 68 net-libs 111
76 net-mail 113 net-misc 428
77 net-nds 11 net-news 16
78 net-nntp 21 net-p2p 67
79 net-print 49 net-proxy 53
80 net-voip 9 net-wireless 89
81 net-www 14 net-zope 6
82 perl-core 2 rox-base 11
83 rox-extra 6 sci-astronomy 32
84 sci-biology 32 sci-calculators 31
85 sci-chemistry 104 sci-electronics 21

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches Jeremy Olexa <darkside@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches "Rémi Cardona" <remi@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches "Santiago M. Mola" <coldwind@g.o>