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On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:12:14 -0400 |
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Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés |
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> <caneko@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> |
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> > wrote: |
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> >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> |
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> >> wrote: |
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> > [snip] |
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> >>> Debian uses initramfs-tools... |
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> >> |
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> >> AFAIK, neither genkernel nor dracut were expected to get tied to |
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> >> the Gentoo update process. Has that changed? |
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> > |
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> > The kernel you are running (if you update your machine) is not tied |
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> > to the Gentoo update process. The *source code* gets installed, but |
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> > the kernel source remains unchanged in /usr/src/whatever. It's the |
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> > user responsibility to configure, compile, and install the kernel |
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> > (and then update LILO, grub-legacy or GRUB2). It can be automated |
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> > with (ta-da) genkernel, but it's not "tied to the Gentoo update |
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> > process". |
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> > I really don't see that much difference with needing to also update |
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> > the initramfs, if needed. |
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> What if your DNS resolver in your rescue shell has a vulnerability? |
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> What if wget, links or whatever network tools you use during recovery |
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> have a vulnerability? |
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What if whatever tools you have in rootfs have a vulnerability and they |
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are statically linked so that we don't have to move half of the system |
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into rootfs? |
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> > Because, besides, if your /usr is not in a different partition, you |
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> > don't even *need* an initramfs. In that case not using an initramfs |
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> > is supported by all upstreams. |
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> And what of /var? /opt? The problem with the /usr merge upstream is |
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> that someone didn't think things through when they pushed it, and the |
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> same reasoning used to justify it easily justifies changing the way |
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> /var and /opt are treated. |
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What with them? /var has a special place of its own, and I don't see |
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why it is brought here. |
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/opt is a defined prefix. Like /usr is. Moving anything into or out of |
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it is a completely separate topic. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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