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On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:27:37 -0700 "Daniel Robbins" |
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<drobbins.daniel@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> If those reasons no longer apply, then your developer status should be |
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> handed back. You can't "sorta" participate - you're either in or |
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> you're not, and it looks like you're in. Right now it seems like you |
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> are fully engaged as a developer in an official Gentoo project. |
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Which would be worth what, for me? As far as I can see, there's |
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absolutely nothing for me to gain by being labelled an "official Gentoo |
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developer", and an awful lot to lose. I'd have to start playing by |
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arbitrary senseless rules that encourage lying and politics rather than |
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honesty and correctness. I'd have an obligation to go and fix all the |
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stuff I used to maintain in the tree that's been neglected because of |
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all the people in certain herds being inactive or resigned. I'd have to |
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start fixing all those QA bugs I filed that are being ignored by |
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package maintainers rather than just leaving them in bugzilla. I'd have |
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to deal with an obsolete version control system that takes three hours |
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to update. I'd have to go back to using a broken package manager that |
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doesn't do many of the things I require. |
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You speak of it as though being a Gentoo developer is a privilege |
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rather than a responsibility. As far as I can see, the only people who |
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consider it an honour or something to be proud of are those who really |
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shouldn't be developers at all. This should be about getting things |
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done, not about silly labels. |
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> Presumably, you were kicked for non-technical reasons. |
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I was kicked for suggesting that a) ppc-macos was breaking the tree, |
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staffed by people who don't know what they're doing, a QA nightmare and |
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damaging to the project, b) that pathspec was vapourware and |
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conceptually completely broken, c) that the forums were encouraging |
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ricing by letting users discuss insane kernel patchsets and absurd |
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CFLAGS in the main fora, and d) that Portage development has by and |
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large stagnated and that Portage can't deliver the things people |
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require. |
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Funny thing... If you go back and look at those issues now... |
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> I'm not trying to get you kicked as much as I'm trying to determine |
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> whether there are still clearly-defined rules for Gentoo development |
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> that are enforced in any meaningful or consistent way. |
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Were there ever? |
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-- |
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Ciaran McCreesh |
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Mail : ciaranm at ciaranm.org |
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Web : http://ciaranm.org/ |
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Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/ |